Is it ok to deceive a sexual partner about your biological sex?

I'd want someone I was going to have sex with to be comfortable with me so I'd let them know about anything that might be unexpected -my very large scars, for instance, because, they may not be an issue, but I wouldn't want someone to be unprepared and potentially turned off. It seems pointless to me to have sex with someone without some form of disclosure - who wants to dtd with someone who is just going through the motions and not really into it? I don't know why anyone would put themselves or someone else in that position.

It’s not ok.

I want to know a person's actual sex in several situations and would like it to be written into law
If I am going to have a relationship or sexual encounter with them
If I request a female HCP
If I am going to be sharing a space where I am likely to be vulnerable such as a hospital ward, rape crisis Centre or a prison
If my child is sharing a room or dorm

It’s never ok.

Two wrongs don't make a right. There's no excuse whatever for violence.
But the OP specifically doesn't want this thread to dwell on that aspect.

I didn't say it did. However, it doesn't appear that the fact that the man had just been sexually assaulted was taken into account.

The vast majority of the verdict was 'you fancied her, she is a woman because she says she is. You beat her because you are a bigot'.

That's why I am saying it may not stick. It seemed to miss out the frame of mind ofbthe person who was sexually assaulted first.

As I said above, I have been sexually assaulted. The reason I didn't try and beat the shit out of the person assaulting me, is because as a woman I am far more likely to be killed by the man sexually assaulting me.

Had I have felt it was a fair fight, then yes I probably would have become violent with the person violating me.

It's never okay.

Definitely not OK.

No it is not.

I'll keep it short and simple this time.

Its never ok to be deceptive doesnt matter if its a ons or a lifelong commitment

Sexual orientation is based on sex so it should be disclosed. It does matter and I can see why you ask the question. It's dishonest and trickery and not acceptable.
If I were a heterosexual man and ended up with a transwoman (who passed) why would I ask their sex? Surely, morally it is up to the transwoman to disclose this before any intimacy.

I am not convinced that guilty verdict will stick, if the right people take up the case for appeal.

But the judge in the case said he thought that if you were going to have a casual sexual encounter then you really needed to find out the sex of the other person if it mattered to you.

That's putting the onus the wrong way round. If a trans person 'passes' from the POV of the potential partner, what was the latter supposed to do?

It is not ok. I would feel lied to, cheated and as though I was not consenting... because I did not know the reality (scientific, general reality not that person's reality).

It's deception.

@TedImgoingmad

It's incel culture. The perceived right to have sex, and therefore to require the other person to get over it. Goes hand in hand with a new sort of blame culture, where a victim of deception is blamed for finding someone superficially attractive before finding out the actual truth of their sex. As if their personality, clothes, good looks in some way cancel out their victim's own sexuality and sexual boundaries.

Absolutely!

That's why I don't buy it. The people who don't want to be upfront, either get off on the deception. Or they Absolutely feel entitled to have sex with someone, even if they know that person wouldn't want have sex with them, knowing the truth.

But let's be honest, that's the agenda that's been pushed for the last few years 'you are whatever you say you feel like and entitled to anything you want, regardless of the other people involved'

I’m mystified that anyone should suggest this. Presumably in this scenario nobody is thinking about contraception????

I think that attack was fairly horrific.

But I also think the Victim was sexually assaulted and if he felt the way I did when I have been sexually assaulted I can understand the wanting to commit violence

The reason I didn't commit violence, was because as a female, the male attacking me was quite likely to kill me, if I physically retaliated. Not because because of some amazing self control.

No.

Absolutely never okay! I’d consider it a form of rape to deceive someone into sex by concealing your true gender.
The victim would feel betrayed, cheated and probably horrified. All sex should be completely honest and consensual.

I’m interested concerned to know why you want to know this…bit of a strange question IMO.