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Sweaty Betty don't know what a woman is

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happydappy2 · 24/06/2021 13:00

Have just been shopping in Sweaty Betty and there was a video playing on a large screen, detailing the triumphs of a trans girl being able to compete as a cheerleader and in female track sports competitively. I did have to mention to the sales assistant that the problem with including males in females teams is that a biological female gets excluded...explained about Laurel Hubbard being picked for the womens weightlifting team thus excluding a biological young woman from her chance to go to the Olympics . Anyone else seen this video? I'm a little disappointed Sweaty Betty aren't championing the rights of women to compete in a single sex category!

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randomsabreuse · 25/06/2021 17:33

@sadperson16

They last at least 4 times as long as leggings half the price so are actually pretty good value if bought in the sales. Usual way that being richer makes life cheaper in the long runi

I quite like sculpting effect as it reduces chafing potential from jiggling...

Sizing is quite generous

TabbyStar · 25/06/2021 17:22

Gutted I won’t be able to shop there anymore. But I can’t support biological men taking over our competitions.

Ebay? I got a great SB vest for about a fiver last year. I got a SB sale card through the door a couple of days ago, but ignored it.

LizziesTwin · 25/06/2021 09:04

I think this is aimed at the US market as it’s supporting a US charity.

Clymene · 25/06/2021 09:00

@BarbaraPapa

Interesting that they're all US athletes too. No UK LGBT+ athletes to support? Or is this mainly for a US audience now?
Good point. They're a British company aren't they?
BarbaraPapa · 25/06/2021 08:51

Interesting that they're all US athletes too. No UK LGBT+ athletes to support? Or is this mainly for a US audience now?

PurpleDaisies · 25/06/2021 08:43

I’m not sure getting hung up on the price of the leggings is helpful here. Expensive women’s sportwear shop sells expensive leggings isn’t exactly shocking.

Sweaty Betty choosing to champion the inclusion of transwomen in women’s sports is a big deal.

Chamonixshoopshoop · 25/06/2021 08:42

Physiological* (although there probably are some psychological too)

Chamonixshoopshoop · 25/06/2021 08:41

I love sweaty Betty, I am sports obsessed so spend a lot of time in sports kit (it’s my thing I spend money on).
I also feel very passionately about female sports equality and the erosion of female sport with the trans movement.
Gutted I won’t be able to shop there anymore. But I can’t support biological men taking over our competitions.
It breaks my heart to see Laurel Hubbard lifting.
With at least 19 psychological differences to a biological woman, only one of which, is testosterone.

Reallyreallyborednow · 25/06/2021 08:38

£90 for some glorified tights?

I can’t believe how expensive they are now.

Many many years ago I used to buy a lot from there. I got most of my post pregnancy wardrobe as they did great combat style (showing my age now Grin ) trousers for about £30.

I suppose it’s the rise of gym fashion…

sadperson16 · 25/06/2021 08:32

£90 for some glorified tights?

That is a months food for some people.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 25/06/2021 08:31

Actually - if they had a campaign with Kuanini Manumua, I’d get my fat backside to the store and buy something.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 25/06/2021 08:29

And SB does all women’s clothes don’t they? So why not cheer women on?

Ohsugarhoneyicetea · 25/06/2021 08:25

Companies seem to forget that 50 percent of consumers who are disappointed with a brand’s stance on a social issue stop buying it. On the issue of trans women in female sports, I've not met a single person who supports it or thinks it's fair. That's alienating a lot of customers.

littlbrowndog · 24/06/2021 23:07

Hey sweaty Betty how about poor people who can’t afford your dead expesinve leggings

Very exclusive

Can you be more exclusive and give us the poor special deals

And for us of us who needs our bums sculpting can we get special deals to get our bums sculpted so we can meet your expectations

MiladyBerserko · 24/06/2021 22:57

Who do they think their main market is? Honestly, I'm so sick of the contempt for women.

Armadollo · 24/06/2021 21:23

I'd like to see Laurel Hubbard in a Sweaty Betty outfit.

Actually, I wouldn't.

Clymene · 24/06/2021 21:21

In the collage, they feature the transwoman 5 times and the 2 lesbians 5 times between them.

So a brand which is specially aimed at women gives more space to the person who isn't female.

Oh well, you can take me off your mailing list SB.

JoodyBlue · 24/06/2021 21:16

they better start upping their sizes then - seriously though, the impact of this stuff on the sales assistants, on the people working in the office, on any of their brand ambassadors is chilling. Wont be buying their overpriced stuff again.

TabbyStar · 24/06/2021 21:06

I went off Sweaty Betty when they sent me a card through the post suggesting that my bum needed sculpting whilst running. I really don't care what my bum looks like, I can't actually see it (and I can't imagine the sheep and cows on my runs particularly care either). Do men get told they need to sculpt their bums? I'm sick of all this stuff that tells us there's something wrong with the female body.

namechangedontfireme · 24/06/2021 17:47

Yes, I saw their window displays with a she/her pronoun cheerleader and it pissed me off. Had an absolute rant about it but my friend works in the store so I can’t submit a complaint for fear of getting them in trouble. Terrible timing for them with the Olympic fiasco, perhaps they will learn.

I think brands need to stay out of politics full stop. Unless you are a charity or actively working in that space, it’s empty virtual signalling.

What are SB actually doing to help these trans athletes they care so much about? And how does that link back to them making money as a premium women’s sports wear brand whose main customer base is probably women over 35?

Poor business decision. I work in the industry and will be asking all my clients to think about this before embarking on ridiculous, meaningless brand purpose campaigns.

PurpleDaisies · 24/06/2021 17:32

@EishetChayil

Sweaty Betty don't care about diversity and inclusion when their leggings are £90 and only go up to a size 12.

What did the sales girl say??

Look on their website-some of their models are clearly above a size 12. Their leggings come in an XXL which is an 18-20 according to their size guide.
flightofthecrow · 24/06/2021 17:28

My dd does cheer and although there are no boys in her team, when we have been to competitions there have been boys in other teams, so there is nothing stopping boys competin anyway

Reallyreallyborednow · 24/06/2021 17:23

I don’t get it - why couldn’t he do sports as a biological male?

Exactly. Nothing stopping them competing in track and cheerleading regardless of sex.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/06/2021 17:21

That’s not the goal though is it...

Janeyso · 24/06/2021 17:19

“ Growing up, I constantly wanted to do sports but couldn’t register due to my documents not saying the proper pronouns and gender. It wasn’t until I got the documents corrected in high school that I was able to do all the sports I wanted”.

I don’t get it - why couldn’t he do sports as a biological male?