Joan of Arc was trans????

Marshmallow

Us Celtic women liked the odd battle too, perhaps us Welsh women are just men 🤣 I mean we fight like our fathers and drink like our brothers so there we go then, the entire Welsh population are men. And we use Celtic witchcraft to populate our nation 🤣

@MarshmallowSwede can you take me back there with you? Bloody love Vikings. And sense.

Nope! She had short hair and wore trousers! Clearly a man. And she probably did math! A man and a witch!

So a strong woman has just simply got to be a man. (Either starting out as one or ending up as one) By hook or by crook. Or by cock.

Alrighty then.

What a pile of mince.

Don’t priests wear long robes that look like dresses? So is the pope a woman? Just want to make sure I don’t misgender anyone.

I thought the DfE said schools were not allowed to teach that those who defy sex roll stereotypes=trans. Not reinforce the stupid idea that a woman who has short hair must be a man.

Well I will make sure I’ll let everyone in Sweden know that Vikings with long hair were actually women.

GoingGently

No I’m very serious I’m afraid. My husband and I are both Swedish and we were reading a story about a Viking grave found in the UK. They seemed so shocked one was a woman. Then they started in on the we don’t know how she identified. We both were shocked and disgusted really. It’s well documented in Scandinavia that Viking women sometimes also went raiding, so how all of a sudden would she be a man?

It’s so offensive and sexist it’s ridiculous. Not to mention offensive to Scandinavian people as well. We know women participated in Viking raids. Vikings were not only men. So to try to erase our history for this twisted agenda is not appreciated at all.

Believe me, we get asked all the time what is going on here by friends and family.

@marshmallowswede

One must assume that the converse is also true, so if a man grows his hair he becomes a women, as he does if he wears a kilt! Or earrings?

So true turquoise. What about rasputin? He wore a dress and necklace, had long hair, and an Alex Drummond beard.

@MarshmallowSwede yep. But the dictionary first

Because if you're not trembling in a corner somewhere you're not a woman...?

Just unacceptable misogyny

So if I decide to cut my hair short I’m a man? I have on trousers so am I now a man?

What is this foolishness?

Are they actually going to erase women from history?!

Presenting someone historical as trans is as risible as presenting someone historical as gay. Unless there's evidence or at least a strong suggestion from the time (a diary?) that they likely were these things.

Oddly enough, with all this post-mortem identification, it's always people who are broadly viewed as positive and sympathetic who are named and NEVER anybody else. I don't think anyone anywhere has suggested that Hitler was trans, have they?

The assumption that any strong woman who refused to conform to societal expectations must be trans was, and is, quite spectacularly sexist. It’s funny that the people pushing this idea don’t realise that it’s the absolute opposite of progressive.

Correction 500. Women can’t be brave, strong. Fight, have an opinion.

I’m waiting for the moment where we can’t own property or open a bank account without our husbands.

They have also been trying to trans Viking women which I greatly resent. Viking women were strong and went out in raids as well. They were not men. Women participated in all aspects of Viking life and I’m sick to death of hearing about Viking women identifying as men. That’s biggest load of nonsense I’ve ever heard. It’s common knowledge in Sweden and Scandinavia in general that Viking women also went out in roads. So how come whenever Brits come across a Viking grave if there is a female she must be trans? All one has to do is ask a Scandinavian and we would tell you.

How about Viking women and Scandinavian women have always been strong and it was nothing wrong if a woman wanted to go out on a raid. Granting she was not pregnant of course. She was a woman who was also a Viking.. and Vikings raid. Men and women alike.

Wasn't you no, sorry for some reason the quote didn't attach. But definitely Wasn't you.

Well.. when you argue stuff that’s clearly nonsense and unsupportable, people will point out that you’re being unscientific and talking bollocks surely? Is that insults or just counteracting nonsense?

She didn’t “present as a man”
She definitely was a woman and thought she was a woman so she was not in any way trans - it’s not unclear in the least.

She called herself the maid and yes her words were reported, but are you suggesting what she really said at the stake could have been “I’m coming out as john of arc, it’s such a relief to be my true self as a man” and it was misreported because of transphobia.
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I’masoulman you said “ Unfortunately we will never know one way or the other.” about Joan of arc. Or didn’t you?