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Joan of Arc was trans????

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Greenandcabbagelooking · 23/06/2021 14:36

It's Schools Diversity Week this week. There has been no mention of any kind of diversity other than LGBTQIA+. Heavy on the T. We've been reminded every day for weeks about this.

Today's update says Joan of Arc was trans because she didn't dress like a woman. There's even a discussion on the pronouns she (sorry, he/they) would have used. Silly me, I though Joan was just a woman who was fed up with the limitations her sex imposed on her. Clearly short hair + trousers = man.

I'm all for showing young people a diverse range of role models, but transing people who lived several hundred years ago is not all that helpful.

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SapphireSeptember · 23/06/2021 15:11

Didn't she insist on still wearing boy's clothes while in prison to protect herself from rape? I'm pretty sure she knew she was a girl.

GCAcademic · 23/06/2021 15:08

I take it you'll be challenging this with the school?

FOJN · 23/06/2021 15:06

FFS this indoctrination of children has to stop.

Surely posthumous transing is transphobic, I thought we weren't supposed to assume anyone's gender or pronouns.

The inconsistencies make my head hurt.

CiaoForNiao · 23/06/2021 15:05

I read a wonderful book about Joan of Arc a few years ago. IIRC it was called "The Girl."
I wonder if it will now be reprinted as
"The transboy"
Or maybe
"The not girl"

Ffs. Maybe JofA was trans (as in Maybe she really wanted to be a boy). Maybe she wasn't. We can't exactly ask her can we. So instead we'll erase all strong women from history.
Yep. Progress indeed.

AlecTrevelyan006 · 23/06/2021 15:04

I think Bananarama must have been trans too

Ifyourefeelingsinister · 23/06/2021 15:03

How offensive, such sexist stereotyping. Who/what organisation is behind this?

MarshaBradyo · 23/06/2021 15:03

Wth

FictionalCharacter · 23/06/2021 15:01

Did that ridiculous material come from the school itself, or from some “package” provided by a lobbying group?
I’d love to know whether the teachers really believe that.

Smallredclip · 23/06/2021 14:52

Appalling!!!!!!

AssassinatedBeauty · 23/06/2021 14:50

That's offensively ridiculous. The entire reason she became renowned is because everyone was well aware she was a girl/woman. That's why she was killed. To suggest she really was a man somehow is absurd and revisionist.

Please do respond to the school about it if at all possible.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 23/06/2021 14:49

Removing women from history now? How progressive regressive.

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2021 14:47

An absolute insult. Infuriating.

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