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I thought this was interesting - Oli London comes out as non-binary and Korean

106 replies

justanotherneighinparadise · 22/06/2021 18:45

mobile.twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1407026281577910282

Twitter is telling them you cannot call yourself Korean if you’re not Korean.

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ChristinaXYZ · 24/06/2021 14:37

I notice Oli defends JKR just after the 6 min mark on the youtube coming out and attacks 'woke' people for cancelling others. Says the woke will do the same re the Korean identity. And of course the woke will but they opened this can of worms with their affirmation without question. It also opens another can of worms - that lots of the criticism of Oli points out that you can't be Korean unless by blood. Is this were we are going now - blood and soil definitions of nationality? Unpleasant.

haggistramp · 24/06/2021 14:35

Is Korean a race or a nationality. Identifying as a race is impossible imo in the same way sex is. You either are or you are not. Nationality, crack on. Lots of non Scottish born people identify as Scottish and are welcomed into the fold.

Hoppinggreen · 24/06/2021 14:22

Such a shame he was assigned Caucasian at birth.

Mumtotwofurbabies · 24/06/2021 14:19

Someone just posted this on Twitter as a reason why you can’t transition nationality but can gender…..errrmmm 🤦‍♀️🤔🤔‘There is a difference between transitioning into a new gender, which doesn’t harm anyone else, and choosing to live a lie to the detriment of other people who form the oppressed group that you’re so desperate to be a part of.‘

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 14:09

I honestly don't know what I'm doing wrong.

I've lived in England for longer than half of my life. I speak English (2nd language). I have a British passport (well, dual citizenship), a British husband, drive a British car, have travelled on British Airways, have eaten British food, have sung "God save the Queen", have drunk thousands of cuppas and ate lots of fish & chips.

yet I don't identify as British.
I guess I'm just Brit-ish

Bythemillpond · 24/06/2021 13:55

This is hilarious

I am coming out as an American.
Can I get my Green Card now.

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 13:46

maybe all the horse meat that was sold as minced beef was not a mistake!
if horses want to identify as bulls who are we to debate them?!

horse shit & bull shit are already the same thing after all

ZingDramaQueenOfSheeba · 24/06/2021 13:40

I'm gonna start identifying as a French heiress.
Francoise Bettencourt Meyers will do.
wait for it....

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/06/2021 13:33

Well, one of my parents was a woman so that makes me half woman...

I made that up but it’s a hell of a better argument than some I’ve read...

JediGnot · 24/06/2021 13:29

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that there is literally zero scientific basis for saying "I am a woman" when you are in fact a man, whereas his claim of having "Korean DNA" does actually have a tiny tiny chance of being true. People with ancestors from certain places do have certain genetics in common, however trivial in the scheme of things.

There is a one in a million or 100 million chance that he does have half korean great great grandmother, and the tiniest touch of korean dna, whereas there is literally zero chance that he is actually in any way scientifically female.

Zeev · 24/06/2021 12:53

@Smartiepants79

Clearly doesn’t understand how DNA works…..
I expect it's the "My DNA is mine, and I am Korean, so my DNA is Korean" argument.

The same as "I am biological, and I'm a woman, so I'm a biological woman."

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/06/2021 12:51

These seems to be a fair amount of influence from the cutesy anime world too.

Keepemguessing · 24/06/2021 12:47

Is gaming to blame?! Can young people today not tell the difference between an online avatar persona and reality??!! It's never crossed my mind before but perhaps a possibility?!

If you google 'transgender' and 'avatar' or 'gaming' there is a lot of material. A couple of links below.

www.vice.com/en/article/nekkeg/video-games-avatars-gender-trans-v25n2

digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1075&context=mgdr#:~:text=Avatars%20can%20change%20appearance%2C%20gender,desire%20through%20a%20fluid%20identity.&text=For%20trans%20gamers%2C%20avatars%20function,self%2C%20and%20often%20relieving%20dysphoria.

JustcameoutGC · 24/06/2021 12:37

Newly Granny you are spot on.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/06/2021 09:44

Social media too - people ‘creating’ the perfect look and life...

NewlyGranny · 24/06/2021 09:42

People testing how far "validation" from others can be pushed, forced and compelled. It will surely get crazier before it collapses under the weight of its own ridiculousness, but we must be nearly there now.

I blame avatars, selfies, filters and Photoshop for giving susceptible people the idea that reality is optional.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 24/06/2021 08:30

There was also a woman who said she is a cat and a... person who said they are an alien (original sex not clear, they transed then decided they didn’t have a sex and they were actually an alien).

There have been people like this since kitty was a cat. We all just used to not take them seriously...

Tuberoses · 24/06/2021 08:17

Hang on, how can he be Korean but Rachel Dolezal couldn’t be black?

NewlyGranny · 23/06/2021 23:39

Oli is stunning and brave and yet the people on twitter are not being kind. What is wrong with them?

If someone says they are Korean, they are Korean. No debate!

SupermanInk · 23/06/2021 22:54

Clearly doesn’t understand how DNA works

There’s a lot of that about. 🤷🏻‍♀️

If men can be women and women can be men, this seems fine to me. I mean why not? All that science, reality, dna stuff doesn’t seem to matter anymore does it. Wink

Bimblybomeyelash · 23/06/2021 22:45

Blimey I’m so confused by this. I really can’t work out what is real anymore.

GoingGently · 23/06/2021 22:31

@CervixSampler

Love it. Basically, we should all be able to identify as whatever we feel we are. I'm a 5ft 6" Irish red head who speaks fluent Gaelic. Back in the real world I'm barely 5'3", my granddaddy was of Irish descent, my red has faded to more blonde and I know a few words of Gaelic. But that doesn't matter, right, because I have some Irish DNA. Somewhere. Possibly in my little toe.
Is gaming to blame?! Can young people today not tell the difference between an online avatar persona and reality??!! It's never crossed my mind before but perhaps a possibility?!
Smartiepants79 · 23/06/2021 21:20

Clearly doesn’t understand how DNA works…..

acatcalledjohn · 23/06/2021 21:13

"I am Korean whether people accept it or not this is how I identify, this is what makes me happy," they wrote. "This is who I am. It’s in my DNA"

Someone please order "ean" an Ancestry DNA kit.

acatcalledjohn · 23/06/2021 20:36

Surely this is satire?

Please tell me this is satire.

If this is real then 'kor' is seriously mentally unstable and should be sectioned.

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