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London this Sunday!

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Maskless · 22/06/2021 15:58

At about 1pm on Sunday 27th June Kellie Jay Keen ("Posie Parker") is going to stand outside the New Zealand embassy with a stepladder, a loudhailer and a banner to protest that Laurel Hubbard has denied a deserving sportswoman a place in the Olympics. And will probably steal a woman's medal.

It would be great if people who care about women's sports could go along to support her.

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WotgunShedding · 28/06/2021 11:20

I think there's merit in saying blame the rules, not the individual players. After all, they are playing by the guidelines, even if I personally think the guidelines aren't fit for purpose.

Photos of competitors neatly illustrate the inherent biological unfairness I think and would be fair to use to show this point but I wouldn't be comfortable with rude name calling. However, pointing out that Hubbard is male and has benefited from male physique, puberty and all the associated advantages wouldn't fall under rude in my opinion - it is crucial in highlighting what the issue is.

Gumbomambo · 28/06/2021 11:18

Laurel. Bad enough misgendering without misnaming.

OvaHere · 28/06/2021 11:18

Lol Mishy did you actually watch the video?

The women got loads of support from the thousands of people passing by. You have this completely backwards, it's a very niche amount of the general public who think it's fine for men to cheat in women's sport.

The own goal happening here is every time someone goes off to 'educate themselves' and is horrified at what they discover. It's every time a man takes his penis somewhere it's not welcome to the detriment of women. Most people quickly see what is happening and they wake up.

Gumbomambo · 28/06/2021 11:17

I loved the ravers joining in the chants and shouting affirmations, especially the couple of guys that pointed out Lauren’s penis. Bloody bigots with their actual eyes. My favourite bit was watching people read the signs and see the sights from the top of the mountain. Class.

DialSquare · 28/06/2021 11:14

It was great to see the support from so many of the rave protesters. I used to go to Danny Rampling's clubs in the late 80s. Brought back some great memories.

SunnyintheSun · 28/06/2021 11:11

Thank you Posie and everyone who attended. Here in NZ there’s huge embarrassment over the situation. We are big on fair play and don’t like cheats.

At the same time, if it peaks a few people, well, consider it our contribution to feminism Wink

VodkaSlimline · 28/06/2021 11:08

Really great afternoon! Thank you to leaders/organisers if you're on here. The atmosphere was brilliant, especially when 10,000 clubbers with mobile sound systems turned up Grin

DialSquare · 28/06/2021 11:06

How would a genital check point out if someone is a Mumsnetter?

Wallpapering · 28/06/2021 11:01

Slightly envious that live to far away to attend these events. Well done 👏 to all

Id like to think police there as protection not because women gathering with placards they expect them to cause literal violence

MishyJDI · 28/06/2021 10:59

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Needmoresleep · 28/06/2021 10:58

Ahhh bless

MishyJDI · 28/06/2021 10:57

@PurpleHoodie

m.youtube.com/watch?v=V2bw2G371y8&feature=youtu.be

For anyone that may have missed it.

This type of open bigotry against someone who has qualified per the rules of the sport to compete, will not play well in NZ. NZ are a fair and open minded country.

If you wish to change criteria, then go to the governing body and change the sport rules. Don't play the sports person just trying to play by the rules. Calling them a man, when they dont identify as or are legally gendered as, is just poor. Bigotry pure and simple.

Posie and her followers do little to help the progression of women and feminism. They are just trying to be regressive and pick on anyway who is different to their narrow definition of biology.

She does the trans cause a lot of good, as she is just so far off kilter to main stream thinking. It perversely helps strengthen anti-segregation and diversity thinking. Every hate sticker up, is an own goal.

PurpleHoodie · 28/06/2021 10:48

m.youtube.com/watch?v=V2bw2G371y8&feature=youtu.be

For anyone that may have missed it.

PurpleHoodie · 28/06/2021 09:08

Have watched the full video on the other thread.

Star
FannyCann · 27/06/2021 22:53

It looks a marvellous day. Well done everyone who was there. Star

AfternoonToffee · 27/06/2021 22:44

Well knock me down with a feather, all those placards and not a single threat in sight.

What was that again about it being both sides?

Haricot · 27/06/2021 22:44

It was a fantastic day. I urge anyone to come along to the next event (whenever that may be) if you couldn’t make it today. If you’re feeling angry about what’s going on, spending a day with like minded women (and some men) will give you hope and make you feel so much betterSmile

NonnyMouse1337 · 27/06/2021 22:22

Love all the wonderful images from today.

mobile.twitter.com/StandingforXX

somethinginoffensive · 27/06/2021 20:43

What a brilliant day. Loads of amazing women.

VortexofBloggery · 27/06/2021 18:08

It was a great event at speakers corner today, well worth watching on youtube

ArabellaScott · 27/06/2021 17:42

Not sure who the woman speaking at 19 minutes is, but Flowers

ArabellaScott · 27/06/2021 17:39

Footage here.

ArabellaScott · 27/06/2021 17:36

Fab, well done Posie and Aja and everyone who went along.

somethinginoffensive · 27/06/2021 17:12

Has anyone seen the picture of the person with the penis balloon on Twitter?

VortexofBloggery · 27/06/2021 15:04

Hope it went well. I'll have to watch on catch up. Aja was brilliant.