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SafeSchools - political indoctrination in KS1 maths!

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 22/06/2021 01:49

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1406897450892333059

For those who can't see the link:

Safe Schools Alliance
@SafeSchools_UK
This is KS1 (ages 5-7) maths from
@JustLikeUsUK
for #SchoolDiversityWeek. What teaching/child development qualifications did the author have? This is political indoctrination & in breach of the 1996 Education Act.
Parents ask to see see resources & complain!

SafeSchools - political indoctrination in KS1 maths!
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Mathsisquitehard · 23/06/2021 10:09

If the wise children ignore the pronouns aspect of the original question, they can spend 3 minutes discussing how many bottles of water Harley intends to give to each runner.

It doesn’t say the runners only receive one each. Can they choose how many to have or can Harley impose Harley’s opinion on them?

FOJN · 23/06/2021 06:53

I found this is the comments on the original linked tweet.

"Just Like Us - partnered by (among others) BlackRock, JP Morgan, Daily Telegraph and Pink News. Their Partnership Programme is sold as a way “to boost your performance on the Stonewall Workplace equality Index.” Corporate sponsorship that undermines #safeguarding."

I think intentionally causing confusion in children is child abuse, it's certainly a massive safeguarding issue.

GCandproud · 23/06/2021 06:30

Surely if a child has the ability to read all that twaddle about pronouns (seriously do they really need to mention it twice?), they can work out the answer to the extremely easy question without discussing it for three minutes. It seems dumb on more than one level. And also surely you’d just write the number down as an answer rather than a load of stuff about pronouns so why make such a song and dance about it?

I’m also amused because when I was at school nobody even knew what a pronoun was (including me) as grammar wasn’t really formally taught, and now it’s ingrained in everyone’s psyche.

NiceGerbil · 23/06/2021 03:48

That can't be real.

SmokedDuck · 23/06/2021 03:30

I think the real question, rather than my paraphrase, used boys and girls throughout, rather than male and female, but I'm not sure I can get back to see it.

I don't know if that makes the answer any more clear.

ScrollingLeaves · 23/06/2021 02:15

“SmokedDuck
Like, "if there are 10 male, 10 female, and 0 non-binary kids in the class, show a fraction to express what part of the class is boys."

Then logically you would think there could also be the question:
"if there are 10 male, 10 female, and 20 non-binary kids in the class, show a fraction to express what part of the class is boys."

If so, what would the answer be? I am genuinely interested.

SmokedDuck · 23/06/2021 01:55

Prodigy math which is an online math game that is used by a lot of North American schools (not sure about the UK) also now has questions which, while maybe not quite so bizarre, are meant to push queer theory/gender ideology. Like, "if there are 10 male, 10 female, and 0 non-binary kids in the class, show a fraction to express what part of the class is boys."

theleavesaregreen · 23/06/2021 00:20

It reminds me of American evangelical Christian homeschooling materials. And of Mao's China.

Tibtom · 22/06/2021 16:38

Maybe the very fact of whether they can do the maths or not will be a useful indicator of the child's true gender. Grrrrr

Don't be silly - facts don't matter.

Goldensyrupissticky · 22/06/2021 14:38

Working with ks1 children, I am fairly confident that a number of children will, while this is being read out, have decided to sharpen their pencil, poked their neighbour for fun or drawn a unicorn. Or told me their neighbour is called Harley or their hamster.

Are we sure this was written by someone who has met a child aged 5, 6 or 7?

Star555 · 22/06/2021 14:28

If it's supposed to be maths, perhaps it would be wise to start by teaching kids the correct grammatical number for pronouns..."they" refers to two or more people, not one person!

What is the world coming to?

Floisme · 22/06/2021 13:40

You have three minutes Shock It would take five minutes just to read and digest the question.
Is the answer 'Never put Kool-Aid in a water bottle'?

WinterTrees · 22/06/2021 13:37

Very disappointed that Just Like Us have used a maths example about handing out bottled water to runners, without including an additional paragraph explaining the environmental damage caused by single use plastic. This is something that should be right at the forefront of the minds of 5-7 year olds as they struggle to get to grips with basic maths. (I would have thought someone as progressive as Harley would be more aware, frankly.)

Hazycoffeek · 22/06/2021 13:34

I’m not on Twitter but surely the MPs endorsing this should be picked up on this.

Coyoacan · 22/06/2021 13:28

Surely it depends on the sex of the child answering the question? Anything written by a girl gets 0 marks as we don't need to hear from them... But if it is a boy identifying as a girl then obviously they always get full marks

Maybe the very fact of whether they can do the maths or not will be a useful indicator of the child's true gender. Grrrrr

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 22/06/2021 13:28

This might help explain things! Found on the JustLikeUs twitter account. twitter.com/JustLikeUsUK

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ThumbWitchesAbroad · 22/06/2021 13:16

Much though I would love for this to be a parody or a mock up, it doesn't appear to be.
And yes, it's ridiculous having that whole second paragraph - what the everloving fuck does ANY of that have to do with actual maths? Plenty of little kids have trouble working out how to do "word maths" problems as it is, without throwing in spurious and irrelevant material in the middle.

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ScrollingLeaves · 22/06/2021 13:08

It is indoctrination. Harley’s gender identities has nothing to do with the maths.

It is like saying “Hayley, who is wearing a pink dress, has 15 bottles of water…..”

NellieEllie · 22/06/2021 12:45

I think Harley needs more than 10 bottles.
Because Harley clearly needs to drink some water and lay off whatever it is Harley has been imbibing up to this point.

TomatoesAreFruit · 22/06/2021 12:10

My child struggles hugely with maths and reading and would not be able to access this at all. My child is in KS2.

It concerns me that so called inclusion ends up with children like mine being excluded.

LazyHorizon · 22/06/2021 11:40

The National Curriculum has been bollocks ever since Gove and Cummings got their hands on it, but this takes it to a new level.

Guessing it wouldn’t comply with DfE requirements either?

GreenWhiteViolet · 22/06/2021 11:23

The second paragraph is completely unnecessary.

The third paragraph is also very odd. There isn't much discussion to be had about 25-15, so is the instruction to talk to your partner for three minutes really an instruction to use the pronouns?

I used to work in primary schools. I'm glad that I no longer do, because I'd refuse to use this sort of resource with children.

Tibtom · 22/06/2021 10:14

@aliasundercover

The maths answer is ‘10 bottles’.* If a student wrote ‘she needs to buy 10 bottles’ would they be marked as correct or incorrect?
  • I think. It’s early.
Surely it depends on the sex of the child answering the question? Anything written by a girl gets 0 marks as we don't need to hear from them... But if it is a boy identifying as a girl then obviously they always get full marks.
FemaleAndLearning · 22/06/2021 09:35

Leafstamp and every parent should make their schools aware of Safe Schools Alliance.

Leafstamp · 22/06/2021 09:17

Discussions on Twitter indicated that these are absolutely genuine materials. Lots of good people are fighting against it, led by Safe Schools Alliance. Every parent should be aware of this fantastic organisation IMO.