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Name of this section

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GreenWhiteViolet · 21/06/2021 19:56

I'm curious. Does anyone here actually like/agree with the new name, 'Sex & gender debate'? I'm interested to see the general consensus and how much support there is here for the name MNHQ have chosen.

Personally, I'd prefer 'Women's Sex-Based Rights' because I come here to post about those, not to have debates about sex and gender. I can't really see how one could have those particular debates here without running afoul of the special language rules, anyway.

If you do like the new name, could you say why? And if not, can you improve on my suggestion?

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NoTruckWithFrontedAdverbials · 21/06/2021 21:15

It could read

“Sex and gender debate”
“Other feminism chat”

FemaleAndLearning · 21/06/2021 21:14

Awful. I can't remember anyone making this suggestion as a name.

TedImgoingmad · 21/06/2021 21:13

This is the Ghetto. We get to catch each other's nasty woman disease and dine on meagre waffles.

(Sorry for the flippant South Park reference, the song has been in my head all day since I clicked on to "Women's Rights" and ended up here. )

GNCQ · 21/06/2021 21:03

The use of the word "debate" is extremely goady and a bit patronising.

You don't get "childcare debate" or "special needs debate" you just get "parenting" or "behaviour/development".

I'd be ok with "Feminism Chat" coupled with "women's sex based rights" for more robust discussion.

Crockof · 21/06/2021 21:00

I don't subscribe to the idea of gender , nor do I think sex and gender are subject to debate

ViperAtTheGatesOfDawn · 21/06/2021 20:57

Also posted on other thread about this:

Women's rights would suffice.

The 'sex-based' is superfluous.

All women's rights are sex-based as women are all of one sex.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 21/06/2021 20:57

Oh, & add to that list:

  • telling us when the split would take place, or that it had taken place

The respect they have for us is awesome.

ifIwerenotanandroid · 21/06/2021 20:56

Interesting that MNHQ ignored all of us in terms of:

  • whether the split should take place or not
  • telling us why MNHQ thought the board should be split
  • what the new name should be

I would've preferred 'Women's Sex-Based Rights' if it had to be split at all.

GreenWhiteViolet · 21/06/2021 20:09

Thanks for that link! Some very good ideas there, and it gives a sense of the strength of opinion.

It's just bizarre that they could have decided on a name that nobody seems to want, so I was trying to see if there might be a minority who like it.

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FOJN · 21/06/2021 20:01

I haven't seen anyone like it yet. We had a thread about titles we would prefer when MN first floated the idea of this name. MN don't seem to have taken any of our suggestions into consideration.

Generally posters wanted to see the words women or feminism included and the did not want to see the word gender.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4272016-Preferred-names-for-streamlined-feminist-sections-on-MN