Self-ID and racism question

Or have I misunderstood?

What are the biological differences between average sizes males and females? My understanding is hormones, skeleton, lung capacity, heart and brain size, skin, vocal chords, genitals, womb, ovaries, fallopian tubes, mammary glands, adipose tissue.

Sex is definately not a spectrum. You are either male or female.
How any woman, especially one that that has gone through pregnancy and childbirth or has ever been sexually harrassed or abused by a male can ever doubt this absolutely astounds me. Yes there are 'feminine' men that exist that with a heap of hormones and surgery may pass in a crowd as female but these are exceptional' but it still does not make them female' they are transgender

@Imasoulman

The comparison between cultural appropriation and specifically trans women is valid because females are the oppressed group of people. Females have fought hard to win their rights, have access to scholarships etc. similar to the current battle BAME people are fighting to access the same rights and privileges.
Females are the oppressed group which males (trans women) are identifying as.
BAME are the oppressed group and who people such as RD are identifying as.

Op is comparing like for like.
The oppressors identifying as the oppressed.

Maybe you could research how many transwomen and men have lost their jobs, their friends and families. How many have not just been abused on line but have been attacked, assaulted, murdered, taken their own lives !!

Go on then, tell us, as you’ve clearly done the research. How many trans people have been murdered in the UK since, say, 2018?

The difference between males vs females who identify as the opposite sex, is that the rights for women were set up as protections to women for the discrimination they experience for having a sexed body that is formed for specific reproductive purposes.

Transmen are female and should have access to those rights and protections. Therefore there are impact on those rights and protections, but they are minimal compared to the impacts of males seeking to access those rights and protections. Males seeking to access those rights and protections diminish those rights and protections and therefore undermine them.

All trans people require their own set of rights and protections and that is where the focus should be. The discussion around spectrums, or why the focus on males, are a distraction from this OP.

The question is: why are people demanding access to the rights for females considered different to those seeking access to the rights for other minority groups?

A classic example of this is the case that OP mentioned of someone leveraging their presentation as someone who is black when they were not, but was in a position of being able to influence policy.

What is the difference between this person and a person who recently transitioned to being a woman and yet is in a women's officer role at either university or in a political party and has influence over policy for all women?

It is always the right time for a bit of Shakespeare.
'A rose by any other name ... .'

"Cis" is an offensive word Soul

@allImasoulman

young women coming out as trans

well that's an odd thing to say. And blatantly transphobic.

I thought that these are just young men telling the world that they're men?

Please do link to some sources for this dreadful epidemic of violence against transpeople @Imasoulman

I was under the impression that violence against transpeople was thankfully very rare.

I think a lot of the motivation for women to identify out of womanhood is different to why men identify out of manhood. I agree that gender disphoria is real and thats one thing, but for the one who are 'checking out' I don't think it will have the results they wish for.

Its the same thing, they're both offensive and perpetuate harmful stereotypes.

I really hate this term 'Identify as' it makes that thing you're identifying as a performative thing rather than a lived reality.

Are you serious??
There are huge numbers of trans men, you can read posts on here on a daily basis about young women coming out as trans.
Its virtually a bloody epidemic.
The fact you have never heard TMAM says a lot about how much you really know and understand about the subject.

We are not talking about men or women being discriminated about so stop trying to shift the point.
Transwomen and Transmen get discriminated against, your post is not about cis people

Genuinely trans people do not as you say just "decide" to become men or women !!

Who decides who counts as genuine then? Isn’t self-ID open to “non-genuine” trans people appropriating rights that are associated with the opposite sex to their own?

Sounds like we need a system with careful, expert-led safeguarding before anyone is granted a GRC, don’t you think?

Fucks sake - the fucking MNHQ censorship is a fucking joke

Apparently can't call out the cognitive dissidence for what it is?!

The law doesn't even pretend that' transmen' (women who identify as men) matter as much as 'transwomen' (men who identify as women).

They still recognise them as women to discriminate against their right to an inheritance. It is a very illustrative point.

I always think that the whole "gender is a spectrum" has been "appropriated" from 'autism spectrum disorder.'

Except the word in practise is outdated as everyone with autism is an individual.

Sex is not a spectrum.

Height is a spectrum. But it would still be absurd for someone who is tall to insist everyone pretended they were short.

Lets face it, a transman's status is not recognised as being as important as a transwoman's. The one bit of law that doesn't recognise a trans identity when it undermines the discrimination against women inheriting instead of men. This screams "We're not even going to pretend the law really goes along with this legal device for a women to inherit in a man's stead". A transman, even with a GRC, is stil legally a woman for discrimination purposes.

Why aren't the TRA's/MRA'a up in arms about women's taking on of a man's dentity not being recognised for inheritance purpose? Very telling innit? Maybe because TRA and MRA are really two sides of the same coin. Women are there on sufferance or when they can be usefully deployed.

I wonder why you are focusing on transwomen?
Do transmen not count ?

Maybe you could research how many transwomen and men have lost their jobs, their friends and families. How many have not just been abused on line but have been attacked, assaulted, murdered, taken their own lives !!

You title your post with self id but then go on only mentioning tw.
Genuinely trans people do not as you say just "decide" to become men or women !!