St Pauls School ditches the title "Head Girl" - The Times 19/06/21

In isolation changing the title to “head of school” is no big deal but added to all the other ‘education’ from the likes of global butterflies & stonewall, it suddenly seems symptomatic of a wider problem

It’s what’s known as a ‘quick win.’ Boiling frogs and all that.

Amazing what you can pick up from articles by actually reading them.

Yes, indeed. They also said that ‘girl’ had ‘binary connotations’, as though it is somehow offensive for a girl’s school to acknowledge the sex if it’s pupils.

Boys' schools assume that their name needs no further explanation. It's their right somehow to to own the name without justification. But girls schools have to explain themselves.

The Boys’ school was founded in1509, long, long before it was assumed that girls would need an education.

It took another 4 centuries for the girls’ school to be established.

Given the fight that has been necessary to give girls access to education (it seems likely that that former pupils would have been in the group of women allowed to attend but not graduate from Cambridge), they should be proud of their legacy.

As noted before ‘girl’ just means human female juvenile. It is not a state that should cause shame.

er . . .

The school said the main reason it was reverting to the historical title of head of school was because senior pupils considered themselves young women rather than “girls”

Makes sense to me.

Amazing what you can pick up from articles by actually reading them.

More bullshit

It’s hard not to think that, especially since this is two transwomen giving the ‘advice’, that the aim (again) is to breakdown boundaries using girls who identify as trans as an excuse, but the real agenda is to prepare the ground for admitting natal boys to a girls school.

As an aside, I think Head of School confusing as it sounds like Headteacher, or similar job title. I know most kids want to grow up as fast as possible, but actually it probably does them a favour to be reminded that until they are 18 they are minors, not actual adults. They might only realise that with hindsight though!

No-one should be surprised that SPGS is in bed with Global Butterflies - Helen Semple (headteacher of said school) is one of the founder members of Schools Inclusion Alliance

And it’s not really about ‘inclusion’, it’s about ideology. Helen Semple is not being led by anybody, the ideology is embedded in everything she does!

My husbands school is doing the same but for good reason. They usually have head boy and head girl but says they have 6 amazing girls going for head girl and 2 rubbish boys going for head boy. They are now going to appoint 2 head pupils and pick 2 of the amazing girls.

So DSs school has a head boy and a head girl. How do they know 🤔?

Faircop did a piece on Global Butterflies
www.faircop.org.uk/winging-it-with-butterflies/

Has the boys school ditched head boy too? Thank god DS didn’t go there - I’d be going bananas.

What? Are you not aware that there's a boys' school called St Paul's School? Maybe it should be calling itself St Paul's Boys' School.

That is exactly my point. Boys' schools assume that their name needs no further explanation. It's their right somehow to to own the name without justification. But girls schools have to explain themselves.

I'm amazed that I'm having to explain this on the feminism board.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9656779/amp/Fury-26-000-St-Pauls-Girls-School-hosts-talk-children-changing-sex.html

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/19/st-pauls-girls-school-pupils-choose-gender-indentity

The school has bigger problems than the head girl title. Several pupils have come out as trans and they are hosting talks from inappropriate speakers.

@BigWoollyJumpers

Which is ridiculous when these schools are in existence to cater to a single sex, boys and girls. You can't therefore have mixed sex sport, because they aren't mixed sex schools. Of course you may well have trans boys in girls schools, for example, but they still play sport all together with the "girls" regardless, because, you know, they're girls. They also all go on trips together already, regardless.

Obviously, you won’t have mixed sex sport in single sex schools, but the Torygraph article is speaking about schools across the country signed up to SW - so both single sex and mixed sex.

You’ve rather missed the point though - SW is encouraging all the schools that they’ve inserted themselves into to be “inclusive” by erasing terms like “girl” and “boy” and replacing them with gender neutral words.

It’s part of the plan to muddle the meanings of words (girl, boy, man, woman, male, female) to the point where they are meaningless and anybody can identify themselves as anything they choose.

It's all so bloody ridiculous. Who on earth thought it was appropriate for the training to be given by transwomen who have no knowledge or experience of living a young woman's life? Surely, if the school is genuine about wanting the pupils to explore their identity they should have been trained by transmen. Ah, but then it wouldn't have been male bodied people telling them what to do, so it wouldn't have been valid. After all, who are we to decide who we are without male input? Arggh, my brain is frying and I haven't got the words to articulate the complete and utter frustration and anger I feel about this utter bonkersness!

I know that schools like this are mainly for the very privileged, but given that most Oxbridge colleges didn’t accept women until the 70’s, schools like SPGS can be proud of their history of encouraging GIRLS to be unashamedly academic and not give a stuff whether that meant they conformed to expectations of femininity. Now they seem ashamed.

They have dropped "Head Girl" because it is not "inclusive". So by extension the word "girl" becomes tarnished, shameful, wrong. This bothers me a great deal. The words we use to describe ourselves being twisted and diminished. "Girl" is surely as inclusive as it needs to be for its purpose of describing juveniles of the female sex, (regardless of gender identity).

Head of school is used for headteacher in a MAT I know od with many schools.

I see nothing wrong with "head of school" - apparently it's what the role used to be known as years ago.

I see a lot wrong with hiring a lunatic organisation called Global Butterflies that tells students, among other things, that there are 150 genders.

Someone above asked whether the new name, Head of School, would sound like the Headteacher.

Actually at St Pauls Girls’ School, the Headteacher is called (rather pretentiously) the High Mistress.

Now if any name needs changing, this is it.

I certainly agree with not making male the default in positions or roles. postman, policeman, etc.

But this is different. This is an attempt to not identity the sex of a person.

Teaching children and young girls that words like man, male, boy, etc, can be offensive affects safeguarding at a fundamental level. I'm not saying that's the agenda here, but that's irrelevant when it has the same outcome.

Well yes the Girl Guides should change their name - they let in any boy who identifies as a girl that day...