St Pauls School ditches the title "Head Girl" - The Times 19/06/21

Well, given that the boys’ school has a High Master who is a woman, I cannot see why the girls’ school cannot have a Head Girl who is a trans boy?

Complete lack of spine. The exact opposite behaviour to what I would expect from SPGS. But equally, it is obvious that a school like this would be a prime target for TRAs: they have been picking off anything significant for women - Girl Guides, Hampstead Ladies Pond, rugby - it’s a deliberate strategy to go for the highest profile thing in a group because if you turn that one, then everything else falls.

I am offended by the teacher suggesting parents are ill-educated or unread on the topic. Any MN FWR member knows more than she does.

Schools like this should be talking to girls about gender and how regressive it is to hold onto gender boxes, not bringing in two male “butterflies” to reinforce them.

Sad to read. I'd understand a school not having a Head Boy and Head Girl (or just one if not co-ed), or a co-ed school having just one person to represent the school, but not this.

Interesting

I had thought ESMS were managing to resist this

Luxury beliefs

23mellicauli. Said.....
"It's a funny position to take.
I mean - they have the word Girls' in the title of their school. No doubt you have to be a girl to get in."

Watch this space.🙄

DD's school has a head boy and head girl, it makes it fair. If they elect 2 head pupils instead then girls could lose out.
Unfortunately gender ID is rampant at her school, the school itself is sensible so far - the one transgirl has a key to the staff toilets and has her own changing room, her parents wanted her to use the girls. But so many kids who have really random pronouns (not even, they/them, but really random things) and expect the teachers to use their new names which change every 5 mins. Many of them have a whole list of labels, agender, aromatic, the girls who previously were just lesbian are now all non binary. It must be exhausting for the teachers.

Theee will be a tipping point - we have seen this before. Heaven knows what will Come next.

I'm not sure any of this is exclusive to SPGS. Dcs' school has prefects, senior prefects and two head prefects but no Head Girl/Head Boy. Heads of SPGS & SPS have always been called High Master/Mistress so no confusion within the school.

If it's anything like the private girls school near me there will be about 5 "boys" in every class. It's spreading like wildfire. No idea if it's more common in all girls schools or not?

Sorry, you must have been a pupil!

How long ago was that @beatrice14? Were you a teacher or pupil?

DSs school is all boys up until 6th . They have a head boy and head girl.

I can't help wondering whether there are any boys' schools which have now been persuaded to stop using the term 'Head Boy'.

They've been into this for while and I don't like it. Before I went there, the old headteacher (current one is Ms Fletcher, not Ms Semple, who's head of diversity) had drawn up a gender identity protocol that said students could choose whatever names and pronouns but would have to leave if they fully medically transitioned. Then I got shown the genderbread person in PSHE there and the head biology sent material round for lgbt history month saying ' We think it’s important to recognise that, whilst biology textbooks teach about sex in a fairly binary way, X and Y chromosomes are by no means the only factors that determine biological gender. It’s also important to note the damage that a binary concept of gender can have on the physical and mental health of those who don’t identify as male or female, or as their assigned gender. ' Then they invited the Trans Youth project people over to talk to the lgbt society and publiscised that, but they kept the Global Butterflies and Diversity Alliance stuff very quiet. But despite all the talk, I only know one person who identifies as agender (having previously felt they were gay), and isn't trying to transition. It's still worrying though. Fortunately, the comments in the papers show opposition to the 'binary' head girl stuff from parents and staff.

A red square to represent periods in social media posts, apparently to “taunt” transwomen because (wipes eyes) they don’t have them.

Amazing, isn't it, how pregnant women, post-hysterectomy women, post-menopause women aren't distressed by other women having periods.

[quote ItsAllGoingToBeFine]Faircop did a piece on Global Butterflies
www.faircop.org.uk/winging-it-with-butterflies/[/quote]
Dear god.

A red square to represent periods in social media posts, apparently to “taunt” transwomen because (wipes eyes) they don’t have them.

Transwomen also don’t have cervical cancer, smear tests, endometriosis, ovarian cancer, vaginal prolapses, pregnancy stretch marks, the menopause, ovarian cysts, polysystic ovaries , ectopic pregnancies , retained products from miscarriage , fibroids,Caesarian deliveries, Caesarian scars, ventouse deliveries, episiotomies and forceps deliveries .

Pardon me for taunting.

It appears that so many organisations run by men who self identify as women are very successful in accessing schools to advise girls and boys on transitioning issues.
I'm not sure why schools believe that these organisations / individuals have the knowledge of child psychology, child development, education and attainment in children, group dynamics and safeguarding along with the host of education issues that renders them appropriate to advise on so many aspects of childhood and education?

But here we are - self identified experts everywhere now dictating how children should be educated

I think they came into DSs school. They also have ferret and vile in. I wasn’t impressed. The teacher who books the ‘turns’... well...

I'm confused as the website says it's for businesses?

Their twitter is illuminating:

But it’s amazing what you can pick up when you read more widely than a single article.

Dd's girls' school changed Head Girl to Head Student because at c. 18 years of age they are not strictly girls any more. Also pupils have never been called 'girls' only 'students' so it made sense. Head of school is confusing I think.