Why mainly trans women?

I agree.

It is so utterly cruel to pretend to them that transitioning will solve their problems. They are so vulnerable in the male facilities.

Slightly off topic, but I often worry about young trans men having to spend time in exclusively male spaces, loos etc While gender dysphoria may well be eased by transition, some of these young people are experiencing a trauma related response to sexual abuse, others are on the autism spectrum, and they're just being waved off out of medical settings into a world in which men can't treat each other with respect let alone women. It must be frightening.

Transmen can’t inherit titles under the GRA (Parliament knows what a a woman is when it comes to who is the next duke of x or Earl of y)*
*
Yes, that's correct. It's called primogeniture and was only recently changed in regard to succession to the throne when Kate was pregnant with George. For hereditary peers, for example, it still stands that the firstborn son inherits and a daughter transitioning to 'son' can't change this.

They can’t be masons

Gay saunas have been known to exclude tjem

For TM attracted to men, gay men generally are a LOT less accommodating because you know they’re men and weren’t brought up to beeeeee kiiiiiind and so are much more “I like cock”

That medium article about Mosier is brilliant, thanks for sharing notbad

There just seems to be so much vitriol and anger tied up in all of this.

Some humans are more used to getting what they want through force.

Most media attention is focused on transwomen getting political positions, power and jobs while most transmen make the media for having babies.

This is so true. Can't believe I haven't noticed it before.

Although actually I think transmen are vocal supporters of trans women’s rights.

Because making sports, prisons and changing rooms single gender rather than single sex in no way benefits trans men (bar maybe in terms of feeling affirmed)

Therefore, when transmen get excluded from male spaces (which happe
ns quite frequently as I understand it), they don't kick off about it.

When do transmen get excluded?

Really what Datun said in the second post here and all posts echoing this thereafter!

It also seems to be different reasoning for most transmen. Many identified later in life and also describe external and sometimes internalised misogyny.
Trauma, sexual trauma can be a root cause for female transition (some men too but not as many it seems).

Many transmen on twitter seem to understand the implications in the reality of biology much more. It's also much harder to fully transition in terms of genitals. So more of a level of acceptance perhaps?

I have to say that the only real life feminist meeting I managed to make in 2019 before Covid, it was mostly trans men and young women protesting. Not very many but they were v angry. Though had no idea what we were discussing. They were invited inside but declined. Michelle Moore did a v hard hitting speech about the book she was working on, inventing transgender children. (I've since learnt that a lot of the transwomen locally are actually quite T*rfy themselves!)

You find the answer to a lot of this through listening to detransitioners.

Other answers are found within videos such as this:

Which one I wonder

My niece is a transman and says she believes she's a man.

Do transmen believe they are men like transwomen believe they are women? Do they also believe they have changed sex?

That is what the mantra says.

I have 2 friends whose daughters have become sons. It's hard to talk to them (my friends).

Do transmen believe they are men like transwomen believe they are women? Do they also believe they have changed sex?

I think that poster is in bad faith. Everyone knows the overwhelmingly disproportionate levels of violence in males compared to females.

The very one

And as the article points out, Mosier is a mediocre age-group race walker. Not Olympic standard by any means.

I'm not counting people who weren't aware or otherwise not present at that time as a transgender individual.

But Jenner has always been trans. Jenner was born trans, isn’t that the narrative? Whether Jenner had realised it or not. So Jenner was a trans Olympian.

Rape is rape regardless of whether that involves a penis or not.

Not in English law. It can only involve a penis. Anything else is sexual assault.

significantly more likely, in fact, going by the accounts of trans men who were forced into women's prisons)

You think a female is more likely to be raped or sexually assaulted by guards in a women’s prison than spending 24 hours a day locked up in enclosed surroundings with hundreds of males? Blimey.

so if you're going to argue that me going to the women's and being blatantly trans is going to give a 'safe haven’

It’s remarkable that in a risk assessment of your own safety you think a women’s prison poses greater threat to you as a trans man. I just can’t get my head around why you would argue such blatant falsehoods just to make a point that trans men aren’t victims of the same misogyny that women are in this debate. I find that quite sad.

This is a men’s rights movement.
All the framework and ideas for unpicking State protections for women come from the USA where the drug companies want to expand the market for trans drugs-patients for life.
It’s a neo Capitalist movement to unpick Socialist based state protections for women that have been well established for decades as they are inconvenient to the narrative that you can change sex.

Who would that be then? Not Chris Mosier I assume, it’s been shown to be a bit of fudge about how successful Mosier is at race walking:

The very one.

I'm not counting people who weren't aware or otherwise not present at that time as a transgender individual.

This is worrying. Do you really think if you were sent to a men’s prison you could keep the fact you’re female under the radar? Using the toilet in your cell would be an instant giveaway. Do you think the threat of being raped with a penis is less of a threat than being sexually assaulted by another female in a women’s prison?confused

Rape is rape regardless of whether that involves a penis or not. Women's prisons could have me raped by the guards anyway (significantly more likely, in fact, going by the accounts of trans men who were forced into women's prisons), so if you're going to argue that me going to the women's and being blatantly trans is going to give a 'safe haven' (as though being raped without someone's penis being involved is any better) you've clearly never thought about women's prisons or the dangers they face.

A trans man is also the only trans person who has any Olympic accomplishments to date.

Who would that be then? Not Chris Mosier I assume, it’s been shown to be a bit of fudge about how successful Mosier is at race walking:

medium.com/@drtonylycholat/slower-than-a-spritely-grandma-81dd8000dfac

Caitlyn Jenner is the obvious successful trans athlete, won a gold medal at the 1976 Olympics.

Female prisons would be significantly more dangerous to me, given I'd stand out like a sore thumb and would be significantly more likely to be (sexually) assaulted whereas in a male prison I could pass under the radar if I do the same thing I do now in terms of showering with other guys.

This is worrying. Do you really think if you were sent to a men’s prison you could keep the fact you’re female under the radar? Using the toilet in your cell would be an instant giveaway. Do you think the threat of being raped with a penis is less of a threat than being sexually assaulted by another female in a women’s prison?

And this is precisely why, despite contrary claim, Iran is absolute shit to trans people - because it forces mandatory surgery and treatments on people who may not want or may not physically be capable of handling the procedures, because it's not about the trans person in question, it's about fitting the societal norm, and then discards us onto the street like dirt.

Forcing a phalloplasty on someone who doesn't want one, for instance, is torture, plain and simple.