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Ethical Superstore - very disappointed

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Seriouslymole · 18/06/2021 10:56

And yet another one bites the dust - although the comments (albeit very few) are quite heartening.

Their Facebook feed has the following:

It isn't just people who identify as females who have a period and more education is needed to recognise this!

Trans men and non-binary people can have periods as well as those who identify as female and it is important to raise awareness and acknowledge this 🩸

As part of our language and Inclusivity week, we are taking the steps to educate ourselves that periods should not be labelled as 'female' and should be inclusive for all! 🙌

Join our campaign and donate to help end the stigma and beat period poverty!

#timetotalkperiods #periods #periodpoverty #inclusive

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Holidayhomeone · 19/06/2021 09:36

Yep some great responses on their Facebook posts though. Was a regular customer but will look elsewhere from now on

Whatwouldscullydo · 19/06/2021 09:32

Trouble is you can't win. They think you are exclusionary if you talk about sex and women. But then if you go along with the belief system and say you aren't comfortable talking about it with men then you are also exclusionary. Not sure what people want tbh

groundcontroltomontydon · 19/06/2021 09:31

As a consumer irked by misogynist bullshit I've unsubscribed and in future will be buying my expensive vegan products from somewhere that doesn't treat me like an idiot

OhDear2200 · 19/06/2021 09:28

You can see the self congratulations that followed this. The pats on backs. The ‘look at how inclusive we are’.

While the irony of their actions just passes them by.

Just remember women…fuck you!

toffeebutterpopcorn · 19/06/2021 09:18

The word women will do.

jellyfrizz · 19/06/2021 09:13

@MoiraQueen

Trans men and non-binary people can have periods as well as those who identify as female

Obviously transmen and non binary can have periods... But those who identify as women? I would take that to mean transwomen - who obviously don't need period products. No mention of women, it's baffling.

I think they are attempting to refer to 'cis' women without using the word women.
Findwen · 19/06/2021 09:08

I was hoping for some advice, until this June I have always identified as a boy for the start of my life, then a man for the rest of it.

For Pride month, I thought I would be non-binary for half of it and female for the other half to help me empathise with those who are most oppressed. I've not made any changes to my appearance or mentioned it to anybody as I didn't want to make a fuss.

I'm deeply troubled by this thread though:
"Trans men and non-binary people can have periods as well as those who identify as female and it is important to raise awareness and acknowledge this 🩸"

When I read this it has given me great concerns - I was planning on taking the kids to the country park some distance away, will I get warning before my first period ?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 19/06/2021 09:07

‘Identify’ is such an odd word isn’t it. I don’t identify as a woman because I am a woman. I don’t actively need to do/say/think it - I just am.

MoiraQueen · 19/06/2021 09:06

Trans men and non-binary people can have periods as well as those who identify as female

Obviously transmen and non binary can have periods... But those who identify as women? I would take that to mean transwomen - who obviously don't need period products. No mention of women, it's baffling.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 19/06/2021 08:56

What’s forward thinking about erasing the word woman/expanding the meaning to include anyone on the basis of ‘feel like’?

In the grown up world of medicine, science, tech design, access, safety,,, these things matter.

AfternoonToffee · 19/06/2021 08:52

@MishyJDI

Aw good on them. I'll make sure I spend some cash there. Very forward thinking. Thanks for letting me know!
Why do I always get the feeling that you are purely contrary and will just say the opposite of whatever is said here? Also means you don't actually have to formulate any POV.
toffeebutterpopcorn · 19/06/2021 08:43

If anyone can truly be what they identify as.. I am now identifying as a woman who doesnt have periods with the intensity of the lift scene on The Shining.

I’ll let you know how I get on in about 3 weeks...

StillWeRise · 18/06/2021 23:41

mmm, and the propotion of potential customers in favour of erasing women is...???
check the bottom line, ethical superstore

MishyJDI · 18/06/2021 20:59

Aw good on them. I'll make sure I spend some cash there. Very forward thinking. Thanks for letting me know!

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 18/06/2021 20:33

It isn't just people who identify as females who have a period and more education is needed to recognise this!

At some point in the future (I pray it's sooner rather than later) people will just piss themselves laughing that false, patronising and ridiculous statements like that were ever published with any sincerity.

'Identify as females', for goodness sake.

ErrolTheDragon · 18/06/2021 19:16

As part of our language and Inclusivity week, we are taking the steps to educate ourselves that periods should not be labelled as 'female' and should be inclusive for all!
Join our campaign and donate to help end the stigma ...

They are making the words 'female' and 'woman' something to be ashamed of.
Everyone who has ever had a period is a female. There should be no stigma attached to that simple fact.Angry

MaudTheInvincible · 18/06/2021 19:04

I saw a 'people who menstruate' advert on FB today. Checked the why I saw this ad and found this. They know exactly whose money they're after.

Ethical Superstore - very disappointed
RadandMad · 18/06/2021 18:44

@SirVixofVixHall

Well that’s another shop that doesn’t want my cash.
Just what I was thinking.
WarOnWoman · 18/06/2021 18:43

I would love for a company (or 100s) to come right out and say "virtue signalling? Nah, not us. We just care about our products. Here, buy some."

Paraphrasing from journalist on Telegraph today but are we going to have companies who just cater to the left and other companies who just cater for the right, for example? You can't shop with us, you're not good enough? People (ie me) are sick of this, I just want to buy products I like without politics rammed in my face. I DONT CARE.

(deep breath).

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 18/06/2021 18:41

And language is really important.

They can have two very fitting words from me.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 18/06/2021 18:41

I don’t identify as female.

I don’t have to.

Because of that biology malarkey.

And again, because of that pesky biology, I’m menopausal. Nowadays I’m grateful because it would be like a feckin red rag to see products labelled for people who bleed or uterus haters or female identifiers on it.

Another shop who can have me identifying as a customer who won’t be returning.

YellowFish12 · 18/06/2021 18:34

@JellySlice

'Female' is the most inclusive word possible when it comes to periods. 'Female' is inclusive of transmen and OFAB NBs.

You don't have a choice about whether or not you are female, however you feel. But you may not feel feminine, and you do have a choice whether you identify with femininity - ie feminine stereotypes associated with being female - or even whether you identify as feminine.

Periods, though, are not feminine in the sense of stereotypes like long hair and daintiness. Periods are feminine because they are 100% associated with the female sex. There is nothing un-feminine about feeling dysphoric about your period. It is so common, especially among teenagers, that I would say that feeling dysphoric about your periods is a distinctly feminine trait.

Yes! You have put this PERFECTLY
StillWeRise · 18/06/2021 18:31

yup, I'm in their target audience and even had a gift voucher for them (from a green energy company) actually, so far I had failed to use it as a lot of their stuff struck me as overpriced or greenwashed.
But now they have definitely lost me as a customer.

TooTiredForToday · 18/06/2021 18:27

It doesn't seem to be on that link from the OP. There's no mention of women anywhere but they've removed all the other stuff and just have a bit saying language is important.

Whatwouldscullydo · 18/06/2021 18:21

Its not going down well though is it..