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Jess de Wahls

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Mollyollydolly · 16/06/2021 23:34

The Royal Academy have removed Jess' work from their shop due to a handful of complaints that she's 'transphobic'. If you want to support Jess her website is here.
www.jessdewahls.com
So sick of these utterly craven organisations. I hope she has a legal case against them for discrimination.

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McDuffy · 20/06/2021 20:20

[quote MiladyBerserko]This is brilliant

mobile.twitter.com/kelly_white_2/status/1406362571469361154[/quote]
Omg I had to look at it so carefully but it's amazing

somethinginoffensive · 20/06/2021 20:10

i but I haven’t been for ages. If someone were to suggest this happened on a weekend in the near future, I might take a trip to London

Ah, anyone heading to speakers corner next Sunday anyway?

viques · 20/06/2021 20:10

@lanadelgrey

Surely if a group of women were to suddenly find themselves in the courtyard doing something as innocuous as a little embroidery to a pattern devised by a contemporary artist such as Jess De Wahl, Kelly White or the famous artist known as … or even plaiting three differently coloured ribbons together, perhaps they might be wearing their favourite t shirts or a badge then there would be nothing much wrong with that would there? You may be able to go into the shop without buying a ticket , but I haven’t been for ages. If someone were to suggest this happened on a weekend in the near future, I might take a trip to London Smile
You used to be able to get into the shop but these days they check that you have a booked ticket before you enter the building. The courtyard is open the outside, and a has a coffee stall.
Tuberoses · 20/06/2021 20:02

News is reporting that Nicola Williams, the founder of Fair Play for Women, has reported the Royal Academy to the Equality and Human Rights Commission. She’s asked them to investigate a possible breach of the Equality Act because “removing Jess De Wahl’s work from the market base on her protected beliefs is a clear infringement of her rights under the Equality Act”.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 20/06/2021 18:56

I'd come along for performance knitting/crochet/cross-stitch!

AgathaMystery · 20/06/2021 18:52

Following this with interest. I am lucky enough to have a commissioned piece by Jess. She is a genius.

I want to support her publicly somehow.

lanadelgrey · 20/06/2021 18:38

I’m up for it!

1stWorldProblems · 20/06/2021 18:22

Another purchaser from her shop - pretty little broach of my definitely female bits that I can wear with pride. This ridiculous censorship meant I discovered a new artist who makes both beautiful & interesting objects. Hopefully she will financially benefit from a surge in direct sales thanks to the RA's cowardly behaviour.

UpTheJunktion · 20/06/2021 18:15

Let’s do it!

lanadelgrey · 20/06/2021 18:02

Surely if a group of women were to suddenly find themselves in the courtyard doing something as innocuous as a little embroidery to a pattern devised by a contemporary artist such as Jess De Wahl, Kelly White or the famous artist known as … or even plaiting three differently coloured ribbons together, perhaps they might be wearing their favourite t shirts or a badge then there would be nothing much wrong with that would there? You may be able to go into the shop without buying a ticket , but I haven’t been for ages. If someone were to suggest this happened on a weekend in the near future, I might take a trip to London Smile

noraclavicle · 20/06/2021 17:25

[quote MiladyBerserko]This is brilliant

mobile.twitter.com/kelly_white_2/status/1406362571469361154[/quote]
Well that’s going to be copied & embroidered by me immediately.

The RA needs to read up and remind themselves of Entartete Kunst - they’ve just instigated the modern equivalent.

EndoplasmicReticulum · 20/06/2021 16:35

Highame I saw your post that was deleted, you used a phrase which is now banned. We don't know it's banned because there isn't a list of banned phrases, because that "wouldn't be helpful" or something, but if you use this phrase in your post it will be deleted. Think mountainy thoughts.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 20/06/2021 16:29

I have had my post deleted, trouble is I can't remember what I said

I don’t get deleted very often but omg the amount of times ive had to ask MNHQ what i said…not what i said wrong….just what i said

Datun · 20/06/2021 16:29

@Beamur

I would love to see Kelly White's artwork made into a T Shirt It's a really powerful image
It really is. I don't know if anyone else is the same, but it took me a moment to see the pencil drawing part. So it was even more powerful as I came to it gradually.
Beamur · 20/06/2021 16:26

I would love to see Kelly White's artwork made into a T Shirt
It's a really powerful image

UpTheJunktion · 20/06/2021 15:31

@highame

Are they being very quiet because they realise they have with discrimination and realise a law suit could be in the offing. Are they heavily involved in discussions? I have had my post deleted, trouble is I can't remember what I said Grin though I did think at the time it might get removed
Maybe.

There are over 120 Academicians with responsibility for the governance / management of the RA so I imagine there is a huge communication task to get them all to address and agree a way forward.

Meanwhile....

What about a HERETIC visit to the RA?

Once our Heretic patches arrive, or maybe we could make 'tribute' patches, we could visit en masse. I realise the galleries aren't a free for all atm but the courtyard is.

I would love to see Kelly White's artwork made into a T Shirt.

highame · 20/06/2021 15:26

Are they being very quiet because they realise they have with discrimination and realise a law suit could be in the offing. Are they heavily involved in discussions? I have had my post deleted, trouble is I can't remember what I said Grin though I did think at the time it might get removed

UpTheJunktion · 20/06/2021 15:05

How dare they?

Their job is to exhibit ART not act as the moral police for the public.

Do they not credit their gallery visitors with any intelligence or values of their own?

Art is about people exploring the world through different viewpoints and encountering different interpretations and visions.

Disgraceful for an arts organisation to act like this. It strikes at the heart of their purpose.

They have discredited themselves very badly.

ScreamingMeMe · 20/06/2021 14:46

Matthew D'Ancona is not impressed either

"As a proud member of
@royalacademy
I am dismayed at its pusillanimous decision to stop selling the brilliant work of
@JessDeWahls "

twitter.com/MatthewdAncona/status/1406185310413897729?s=20

Also saw this in the replies:

"How to handle your social media: Exercise 24: “Recovering from terrible publicity” - the correct approach. Acknowledge, Address and Resolve with Speed & Empathy (A.A.R.S.E covering technique)."

twitter.com/context_outside/status/1406243230786666500?s=20

Jess de Wahls
YellowFish12 · 20/06/2021 14:35

That ‘be kind’ lips sewn shut drawing is powerful

SnoopyLights · 20/06/2021 14:30

[quote MiladyBerserko]This is brilliant

mobile.twitter.com/kelly_white_2/status/1406362571469361154[/quote]
That really is brilliant in how simple but immediately effective it is.

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 20/06/2021 13:32

@inmyslippers

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^^ can't see it. Has it been removed?

No - it's still there, it looks like there is a typo in your link for kellywhite's name.
inmyslippers · 20/06/2021 13:21

<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mobile.twitter.com/kellywhite2/status/1406362571469361154" target="_blank">http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mobile.twitter.com/kelly<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mobile.twitter.com/kellywhite2/status/1406362571469361154" target="blank">whitee<a class="break-all" href="http://go.mumsnet.com/?xs=1&id=470X1554755&url=mobile.twitter.com/kellywhite2/status/1406362571469361154" target="_blank">2/status/1406362571469361154

^^ can't see it. Has it been removed?

toffeebutterpopcorn · 20/06/2021 12:41

Eric’s daughter?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 20/06/2021 12:40

Julia hobsbawm chair of Demos has well and truly climbed the mountain over this

twitter.com/juliahobsbawm/status/1406471745624739842?s=21