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Statement from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

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Immunetypegoblin · 16/06/2021 07:10

www.chimamanda.com/, published yesterday.

She is angry. One can understand why. One to watch I think.

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OvaHere · 16/06/2021 18:49

It is Ayesha Hazarika who has written a very milqetoast opinion piece about this. She is on the board of the Fawcett Society so I do expect her to stand up for women, otherwise she can quit.

Thanks @MareofBeasttown

OvaHere · 16/06/2021 18:47

Here's another tweet I spotted in the wild. Implying that such a thing as a biological woman exists is inherently transphobic. Hmm

I'm fairly sure the misogyny can be spotted from space by now.

Statement from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
TedImgoingmad · 16/06/2021 18:46

Shades of "All About Eve" with this one.

MareofBeasttown · 16/06/2021 18:45

[quote OvaHere]Does anyone know who Hadley and Helen are referring to in this thread?

twitter.com/HadleyFreeman/status/1405101367933509633[/quote]
It is Ayesha Hazarika who has written a very milqetoast opinion piece about this. She is on the board of the Fawcett Society so I do expect her to stand up for women, otherwise she can quit. uk.news.yahoo.com/cruelty-hate-trans-debate-both-111825136.html

OvaHere · 16/06/2021 18:41

Thank you @ScreamingMeMe

That certainly would be a fit.

MareofBeasttown · 16/06/2021 18:35

I am glad I can talk about support for Chimamanda here because I would never be able to say this on my official Twitter. But yes, increasingly I am seeing that men are trying to prove they are women by urging that women who think otherwise be attacked with machetes.

Clymene · 16/06/2021 18:33

Urgh what a nasty piece of work she is.

MareofBeasttown · 16/06/2021 18:18

Here's the dirt. I work in publishing so am very interested in all of this:) www.voice-online.co.uk/entertainment/books/2020/11/18/akwaeke-emezi-non-binary-author-shares-heartbreak-at-chimamanda-ngozi-adichie/

AuldFox · 16/06/2021 18:16

Brilliantly written, but I’d expect nothing less from her.

To those who have not yet experienced her books, I’ve read and enjoyed:
Half of a yellow sun
We should all be feminists
Purple hibiscus
Americanah

All of them are worth your time.

SpindleWhorl · 16/06/2021 17:59

@Redapplewreath

Part three in particular. Wow. Yes. All of that. Particularly the take take take and never give attitude becoming prevalent in society, the demands of puritanism and selflessness from others that the demander certainly won't expect of themselves or tolerate anyone else expecting from them - this absolute double standards of personal entitlement compared to what others are entitled to from them. Lundy Bancroft made similar observations in his book Why Does He Do that.

The whole western world is going to have to consider how the most gently and sensitively disciplined, carefully educated, carefully and scientifically parented generations in history with the aim of a happier, more caring and mentally healthy society have managed to create a society in which these values- and growing amounts of violence and vandalism - are becoming normal.

Oh my word, this resonates.

And this:

Oh god, that tweet. The casual encouragement of others to 'pick up machetes', but this perfectly fucking serene soul will be 'in my garden with the butterflies'.

I'm really stunned and bloody upset about this.

teawamutu · 16/06/2021 17:54

Good spot, Screaming.

What a hypocrite.

ScreamingMeMe · 16/06/2021 17:28

[quote OvaHere]Does anyone know who Hadley and Helen are referring to in this thread?

twitter.com/HadleyFreeman/status/1405101367933509633[/quote]
No, but I do love to speculate.

twitter.com/caitlinmoran/status/1405161713402585088?s=20

ScreamingMeMe · 16/06/2021 16:57

@InvisibleDragon

Having now seen the tweet about machetes, I'm now even more disgusted. It's a particularly visceral image of violence. Given the number of people who were killed with machetes in e.g. Rwanda, it's incredibly offensive and distasteful.
Absolutely.
Gumbomambo · 16/06/2021 16:49

I’ve just bought one of her books thanks for the recommendations. What an awful thing to have happened to her and what kind of appalling person feels they can play the victim in this scenario. Butterflies and machetes? Good grief.

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2021 16:11

Isn't Helen Lewis, commenting under Hadley, the person who has been slinging shit at Glinner?

Yes.

donquixotedelamancha · 16/06/2021 15:56

@BrimfulOfBaba

I am not GC and want trans people to be safe and respected

Being GC means thinking that Gender is a harmful set of stereotypes and that women are structurally disadvantaged because of these stereotypes.

It has nothing to do with not wanting trans people to be safe, it's just not accepting that physical sex differences don't matter.

InvisibleDragon · 16/06/2021 15:56

Having now seen the tweet about machetes, I'm now even more disgusted. It's a particularly visceral image of violence. Given the number of people who were killed with machetes in e.g. Rwanda, it's incredibly offensive and distasteful.

TedImgoingmad · 16/06/2021 15:55

Isn't Helen Lewis, commenting under Hadley, the person who has been slinging shit at Glinner?

RoyalCorgi · 16/06/2021 15:41

I'm dying to know, OvaHere.

I notice Marina Hyde has tweeted Chimamanda's piece, but up till now she hasn't said anything at all about the trans debate. So it could be her, I guess. I don't know who else. I don't expect it's OJ. Grin

OvaHere · 16/06/2021 15:27

Does anyone know who Hadley and Helen are referring to in this thread?

twitter.com/HadleyFreeman/status/1405101367933509633

fireproofwitch · 16/06/2021 14:55

@Immunetypegoblin

www.chimamanda.com/, published yesterday.

She is angry. One can understand why. One to watch I think.

OMG Part 3 is so powerful and so true.
countrypunk · 16/06/2021 14:43

I think part 3 is all the more powerful after parts 1 and 2. The reprinting of the two authors' emails gives so much weight to CNA's words in the final section.

Londono · 16/06/2021 14:40

*Adds entire back catalogue of books to basket

OhHolyJesus · 16/06/2021 14:15

[quote Cowbells]@OhHolyJesus - two good essays by her to start with are We Should All Be Feminists (available in print as a mini book) and Beware The Single Story which is a genius piece about race and assumptions. It's in print (freeonline I think) but also on YouTube spoken live by her.[/quote]
Oh thanks, I'll check these out. Thanks for that!

countrypunk · 16/06/2021 14:10

This poured absinthe on the fire in my belly. She is almost painfully articulate. Fucking amazing.

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