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Statement from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie

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Immunetypegoblin · 16/06/2021 07:10

www.chimamanda.com/, published yesterday.

She is angry. One can understand why. One to watch I think.

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ValancyRedfern · 17/06/2021 06:20

CNA is an absolute goddess. I highly recommend her novels and her books on feminism. Dear Ijeowale is a beautiful book about bringing up a daughter.

ScreamingMeMe · 17/06/2021 06:14

The sheer audacity of that white man mansplaining intersectionality to a black feminist woman Shock

EsmaCannonball · 17/06/2021 00:49

I would question the motivation of any male who joins a menopause group, and associating being a woman with the ability to accessorize is just tired old sexist bullshit.

allmywhat · 17/06/2021 00:25

Oh my god Rapp and Emezi are revolting. What a contrast with CNA.

There aren’t enough exclamation marks in the world for this drama.

But I had to add some extra for that opinion piece by Ayesha Hazarika.

Trans women are not only welcome [in a menopause group! called “Hot Girls!”], they are cherished — we have all learned from their stories and world class ability to accessorise.

Envy not envy. I mean, there’s a common word for the type of XY who would join a menopause group and think it appropriate to share their stories. And as for the “ability to accessorise!”EnvyEnvy It makes my skin crawl when women pander like that. Do they not realise?

Sorry, there are much more interesting things happening here, both in the wider drama and on this thread. But I had to get this off my chest.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 16/06/2021 22:37

I'm going to be a little petty and point out that Emezi misused a personal reflexive pronoun (myself) in that instagram statement.

Tut.

Clymene · 16/06/2021 22:28

@WinterTrees

She sat there and made a decision to deliberately target a Black, queer, disabled, trans author during their launch week, ironically in a book in which I speak openly about how book launches often end in suicidality for me

Oppression bingo full house! (Or - translation: Behold my array of special characteristics, which render me beyond reproach and enable me to behave like a spoiled, entitled, backstabbing brat without any comeback.)

Gosh, it must have been really difficult to publish SEVEN BOOKS IN FOUR YEARS when just launching a book makes her feel suicidal. I guess we should be grateful that she is suffering to this degree to bring us her exulted oeuvre.

HmmHmmHmm

SpindleWhorl · 16/06/2021 22:21

Maybe one of the Rapp followers can go on Twitter to tell people to pretend that CNA didn't write the works of CNA, but that their favourite character did instead.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 16/06/2021 22:02

His followers keep musing on how tragic it is that such a brilliant author disagrees with them.

Funny thing. When someone much more intelligent and educated than me disagrees with me, I listen to what they say and how they reached their position. I don't just dismiss them because I find their disagreement inconvenient.

BreatheAndFocus · 16/06/2021 21:22

I specifically came on here to say what a prize prick, Anthony Rapp is! The f**king smug arrogance of the man! 😡 Perhaps it’s not the two intelligent, liberal female authors that are wrong - it’s him. Think on that, smug white man 😡

Except you won’t because you’re probably too busy basking in the admiration of your equally dimwitted followers. And, of course, I’m sure the idea that women might be right never enters your head.

Chimamanda Ngozie Adichie absolutely towers above you in both intellect and ability.

Her essay was brilliant and eloquent. Everything Anthony Crapp is not.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 16/06/2021 20:42

I think Anthony Rapp needs bloody cancelling for mansplaining intersectionality to Chimamanda Ngozie Adichie.

You can see that rich white male actor knows he's talking to someone who's black and a woman, can't you. It just oozes out.

Let's look at Rapp's academic qualifications.

Wikipedia: Rapp participated in community theater as a child[6]and won awards for his singing in junior high school.[7]Rapp attended high school atJoliet West High Schooland theatre camp atInterlochen Arts Campin Michigan.[8]He moved to New York in 1989 to attendNew York Universityas a film student, but dropped out after a semester.[6]Rapp has been a friend of comicAndy Dicksince childhood.[9]

Chimamanda's qualifications and awards are about two miles long. If I copied and pasted hers, you'd petition MBHQ to delete my post for being too long!

OldTurtleNewShell · 16/06/2021 20:03

I think the below has to be the most ridiculous response I've seen to her essay.

You have to be mind-numbingly arrogant to be a wealthy white American male actor and think it's your place to 'educate' a black Nigerian feminist writer- one of the finest intellectual minds of our time no less- on what intersectionality is. Absolutely gobsmacking.
mobile.twitter.com/albinokid/status/1405006851549302786

Statement from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
Statement from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
WinterTrees · 16/06/2021 20:00

She sat there and made a decision to deliberately target a Black, queer, disabled, trans author during their launch week, ironically in a book in which I speak openly about how book launches often end in suicidality for me

Oppression bingo full house! (Or - translation: Behold my array of special characteristics, which render me beyond reproach and enable me to behave like a spoiled, entitled, backstabbing brat without any comeback.)

SimonedeBeauvoirscat · 16/06/2021 19:52

Thanks @ArabellaScott will go and have a look.

ArabellaScott · 16/06/2021 19:51

@SimonedeBeauvoirscat

Out of interest, has there been a thread on Feminism Chat about what a disappointment Caitlin Moran and her whole ‘how to wimminz’ schtick is?
Several.
TheHandmadeTails · 16/06/2021 19:46

What did Helen Lewis say about Glinner, can anyone fill me in?

Novelusername · 16/06/2021 19:46

Ugh, what a spoiled, self-important, narcissistic little brat this character sounds! I find her tweets so sickeningly self-important I can't even get through them - fat chance of ever finishing one of her books! I never knew it was possible to feel so bored and so repulsed at the same time. Chimamanda, on the other hand, is wonderfully eloquent.

TheHandmadeTails · 16/06/2021 19:42

Ayesha Hazarika was involved in drafting/getting through the 2010 Equality Act (iirc) which we’re all forever quoting from so I feel I can let that article pass, untrue and offensive though it may be.

SimonedeBeauvoirscat · 16/06/2021 19:41

Out of interest, has there been a thread on Feminism Chat about what a disappointment Caitlin Moran and her whole ‘how to wimminz’ schtick is?

ScreamingMeMe · 16/06/2021 19:37

@HPFA

A response:

twitter.com/MrBamigboye/status/1405204565520171008/photo/1

It's completely deranged.

People aren't having it either. Oh dear, I think they may regret this!
rabbitwoman · 16/06/2021 19:35

I have always always said that the best way forward would be to hear both sides equally and allow the arguments to stand and fall on their own merits....

ArabellaScott · 16/06/2021 19:30

@HPFA

A response:

twitter.com/MrBamigboye/status/1405204565520171008/photo/1

It's completely deranged.

She doesn't seem a well person.
HPFA · 16/06/2021 19:24

Might be that Hadley and Helen were also referring to this one:

twitter.com/caitlinmoran/status/1405161713402585088

HPFA · 16/06/2021 19:21

A response:

twitter.com/MrBamigboye/status/1405204565520171008/photo/1

It's completely deranged.

SimonedeBeauvoirscat · 16/06/2021 19:18

The emails were necessary evidence of the sharp contrast between public face and private grovelling.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 16/06/2021 18:54

Good grief, I expected something with a bit more backbone from Ayesha Hazarika. She's got a brain in her head.