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Woman arrested "had intially been mistaken for a man"

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User27aw · 15/06/2021 21:27

www.southwarknews.co.uk/news/exclusive-three-more-women-attacked-by-knife-wielding-suspect-in-east-dulwich/

From the article:

"Today (June 15) a 53-year-old woman was arrested on suspicion of grievous bodily harm with intent and remains in custody while enquiries continue.

Police say they believe she is the only suspect, and had initially been mistaken for a man. "

Who had mistaken her for a man. The police? The victims?

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Erikrie · 16/06/2021 20:40

Does anyone remember this case and gem of a news report?

That is a gem. That's just trolling now 😂

Erikrie · 16/06/2021 20:39

Maybe the US does it better than our press

😂

QuentinBunbury · 16/06/2021 20:37

That's a good one
Maybe the US does it better than our press
www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3689001/amp/Transgender-woman-arrested-voyeurism-Target-Idaho.html

FOJN · 16/06/2021 20:29

Does anyone remember this case and gem of a news report?

www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article236647643.html

FOJN · 16/06/2021 20:25

I am not sure I know many women who have the height needed to be able to strangle another woman,

The first victim estimated her attackers height to be about 5'7" although we don't know her height. Her account is on the East Dulwich forum linked above.

MarshaBradyo · 16/06/2021 19:46

No idea what’s going on with the sex part but worrying as my area

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2021 12:48

Women in the area are asking if the police have arrested the right person and whether they are safe.

This is what happens when words no longer have meaning

Erikrie · 16/06/2021 12:41

Ah. This is absolutely bonkers. It's actually intefering with police work and isn't helping victims.or potential victims either. Absolutely mad and bereft of common sense. I'm raging!

That is absolutely bonkers. Wtf is going on here?

Helleofabore · 16/06/2021 11:47

I am not sure I know many women who have the height needed to be able to strangle another woman, the power of grip or the handspan. Although, it didn’t say whether the person tried to strangle with something other than hands, which again requires height and power.

But I guess the victim and the other women, they were all mistaken and we are all just nasty people.

I do look forward to the photos during the court case.

ScreamingMeMe · 16/06/2021 11:35

[quote andyoldlabour]I think this may be interesting, it certainly confirms what we all thought.

www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,2213349[/quote]
Ah. This is absolutely bonkers. It's actually intefering with police work and isn't helping victims.or potential victims either. Absolutely mad and bereft of common sense. I'm raging!

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2021 11:28

@TabbyStar

This is a mess, women's confidence in the police must be decreasing. I'm generally supportive of them but I've started to feel they can't be trusted.
There are individual police officers who are decent but as an institution I do not trust the police at all anymore.
TabbyStar · 16/06/2021 11:11

This is a mess, women's confidence in the police must be decreasing. I'm generally supportive of them but I've started to feel they can't be trusted.

andyoldlabour · 16/06/2021 11:00

I think this may be interesting, it certainly confirms what we all thought.

www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,2213349

DiscoJanet · 16/06/2021 10:29

I live near where this happened, and there's been discussion on the local forum (including from the first victim herself). The attacker was initially described by her as a man in his 20s. It makes no sense whatsoever that the person arrested is not only female but also apparently 53. It's about as unlikely you might misjudge someone's age so drastically as you might their actual sex too. This whole thing, including the utterly appalling 'response' from the police, just stinks.

PronounssheRa · 16/06/2021 10:24

Strangling strikes me as a very male crime, this whole story is odd, not helped by the fact you can't believe what the police say anymore.

As for the inaction of the police, that is a disgrace. They virtue signal about violence against women and girls, but in reality this is how they act

FightingtheFoo · 16/06/2021 10:11

If this comes to court and the victims are made to use female pronouns I will personally give every penny I have to legally challenge the bench book.

AlfonsoTheMango · 16/06/2021 10:10

@NecessaryScene

Oh and (d) men are increasingly aware there is a lot of upside to saying they're women. Particularly if they're an offender.
Wait! I thought that never happens...
NecessaryScene · 16/06/2021 10:10

Certainly, it is possible it was a woman who was mistaken by 4 people she attacked for a man. (Maybe because they have assume knife attackers to be male). I'm not ruling it out. But I'm betting on the other possibility for now.

NecessaryScene · 16/06/2021 10:08

Oh and (d) men are increasingly aware there is a lot of upside to saying they're women. Particularly if they're an offender.

NecessaryScene · 16/06/2021 10:07

The person appears to be male but is female

Again, do you take bets? I'm betting the person is male and calls themselves a woman.

I think this is significantly more likely because (a) all witnesses described them as male after close-up encounters, where their build would have been obvious, (b) males are far more likely to be commit this sort of crime, and (c) we know the police will lie about men's sex and call them women on demand.

AlfonsoTheMango · 16/06/2021 10:04

@Erikrie

Do you accept bets?

Id lay a healthy bet on the sex of the perpetrator being exactly as the victim described.

And I'd lay a healthy bet on the attacker having a Y chromosome.
TheTuesdayPringle · 16/06/2021 10:01

The story is clear that a way was attacked in the street by a complete stranger who she identified as a man. Police did not attend because they were busy on other calls. During the flowing couple of days, three more women were attacked at exactly the same place and all identified their attacker as male.
An arrest has been made and the suspect identified as female.

This tells us a number of things

Someone is crazy violently attacking women in east dulwich
The person appears to be male but is female
The police are so under resourced that they cannot attend attempted murders in this area at times

NecessaryScene · 16/06/2021 09:56

Why is it even relevant?

It's relevant because I think the police are lying, and I don't think the police should be lying.

Even if they're not lying in this case, which I doubt, their behaviour where they've lied a lot of times in the past has now led me to believe there lying, and I don't think police should be making people think that they're lying.

Is that unreasonable?

Erikrie · 16/06/2021 09:54

Do you accept bets?

Id lay a healthy bet on the sex of the perpetrator being exactly as the victim described.

toffeebutterpopcorn · 16/06/2021 09:54

Would the police take more seriously reports of a man throttling a woman, or a woman throttling a woman?

Ian’s it wasn’t that long ago that the police wouldn’t bother to come out to ‘domestics’.