Taxpayer gave Stonewall £2.6M over four years

Accidentally started another thread on this - Suzanne Webb MP being very supportive and getting supported. Ramil taking a bashing.

I don't know much about Ranil Jayawardena MP but he tweeted the Times pieces with the comment:
You might expect me to say this, but Liz [Truss] is spot on…

It is time for government to leave this scheme, which has “provided inaccurate legal advice” to those providing public services.

The rights of women and girls must be protected… the EHRC is leaving already.

twitter.com/ranil/status/1404484232362168321?s=20

Although he has a fair number of supportive comments, I'm taken aback by some of the replies. They're not worth further consideration beyond how far people are going to say Sinnott trumps everything else - and, new to me, the disparaging of Reindorf. It's disappointing how much Stonewall and their view of the law has skewed the perspective of people who are obviously very passionate about this issue.

twitter.com/LGBTTeacherUK/status/1404515709984595970

Can I ask is Jigsaw PSHE still attached to Stonewall?

Meanwhile in 2011

And that appalling Coalition document was sent to government departments to lead on actions, from MoJ to DfE to HMRC to DCLG.

Signed off by Theresa May and Lynne Featherstone.

So the Lib Dems caved in on tuition fees for a stupid referendum on AV (not even PR) and this?

Jesus.

Meanwhile in 2012 Ben Summerskill was still holding out at Stonewall, but four years later it was game over. Maria Miller, Gendered Intelligence and Ruth Hunt got their way.

And the Lib Dems were shown the door anyway in 2015.

Huge amounts of quotes from something Whittle did in that document.

Also a section describing lack of acceptance by parents being highly damaging.

Second citation links to this:

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/sites/default/files/researchreportt27transsresearch_review.pdf

Acknowledgements:

*The authors of the report are very grateful to all those involved with the production of the review. We would like to thank Susan Botcherby, David Darton, Clare Thetford and Heather Barclay at the Equality and Human Rights Commission for commissioning the review and for their advice and support during its completion.

We would also like to thank the Gender Identity Research and Education Society (GIRES), the Scottish Transgender Alliance (STA) and a:gender for their expert input.

Our thanks also go to other members of the Qualitative Research Unit who shared the responsibility for drawing together information and references throughout the review.

By definition, any evidence review is out of date as soon as the cut off date for what can be included has passed. NatCen was commissioned to incorporate evidence up to, and including, early 2009. Any subsequent evidence and developments are not captured in the review.*

Well, clear from page 6 of that document there's a belief that young children are 'trans' from an early age.

@Dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby and @Theeyeballsinthesky,

Bloody good questions about the Lib Dems and the Coalition. Will read, research and think.

Yes it's finally becoming clear just why so many public services, schools, police, councils and businesses have adopted the gender identity ideology. It's not just blue-haired social media interns, it's been driven by HR departments allowing Stonewall to dictate their EDI policies, and government bodies paying Stonewall to re-educate them so they can have the logo on their website and look inclusive. All roads lead back to Stonewall.

Thx for the sharetoken OP. Such a shame that The Times is behind a paywall!

It will take SO much political will to unpick this stuff. Throwing out Stonewall is only the first tiny step.

There needs to be a complete re-examination of ALL documents/policies which bear the imprints of Stonewall's sticky fingers.

I think this was absolutely one of the tnings if not the thing they got

2010 coalition
2011 government publishes a strategy for transgender equality
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/85498/transgender-action-plan.pdf

Driven by Lynne featherstone

Quote SpindleWhorl: 'And much as I despise Labour's stance on all this, let's not forget that Stonewall rose to these heights under the premierships of Cameron, May and Johnson, and the Secrestart of Stateships of Morgan, Greening, Rudd and Mordaunt.'

What did the LibDems get out of the 2010 Coalition? It wasn't PR so was it these issues? Only Tories can roll this back right now.

I feel a letter to my MP coming on...

Me too, @WarriorN. I think they should be made to explain to the nation. And Maria Miller, too.

I'm actually revolted at Keir Starmer's ambivalence on this.

True. And I'd like to know why.

This is so much bigger.

This has moulded public services across the county to have a certain approach to the T that is ultimately damaging to women and children.

It's going to take a long time to unpick and undo that.

This reminds me of Kids Company.

These things are often a Phenomenal waste of time in schools.

What they do do is fine tune your awareness to the importance of the things you have to find evidence for. Which is fine if it's basic skills quality mark or something similar; I can see the benefit despite how arduous it often is, but an entirely different thing if it's Stonewall.

It also serves to make those completing the documents, believe in working in a certain way and obviously impacts policies and staff meetings.

I've done enough of the fuckers

I saw one submission that was huge. I know how long it takes me and my team to complete a 6-8page evidence documentation for clients (can take 2-3 days getting all the bits together and writing parts), so heaven knows how long it is taking staff to do these.

This won't even count the time wasted filling in extensive submission files either.

We should send this to all our MPs and maybe even the HoL. I know they are all aware at this point, I don't think a single one could deny knowledge at this stage, but we need to keep the pressure on.

I want a refund. Maybe I should contact inland revenue!

Great quotes from Stephanie D-A in there.