Barack Obama heartbroken by wave of anti-trans bills

Oh well, I'm sure he'll get over it.

I think it's tricky. In the UK trans people have the same rights as everyone else. AFAIK in the US this is not the case especially as regards healthcare. So I really don't feel qualified to talk about and I wish US posters would be equally as reticent about posting on British sites.

So... Verity should play on the men's team?

Not having taken testosterone, as that is usually considered illegal doping in most sport situations.

I know there's also a rugby team where a trans man who has taken testosterone is allowed to play with the women, despite the potential for unfair advantage against opponents

But isn't the GC position that trans women should play on mens' teams? And therefore, surely trans men should play on ladies' teams?

Ah, found my reference. She was involved in the South Dakota bill.

Talking about it here:

I heard Emma Hilton talking about this the other day - apparently she was involved in drafting at least one of those US state bills.

She finds it rather odd seeing the hysterical US media coverage about "anti-trans" bills, when she knows how much care she took in creating it.

It's about women.

Unless I've missed something. It's almost entirely been female sport, right?

Believe so. Trans girls/women wanting to take part in girls/women's sports. I know there's also a rugby team where a trans man who has taken testosterone is allowed to play with the women, despite the potential for unfair advantage against opponents:

"Verity Smith with his Rotherham Ladies teammates." www.rotherhamadvertiser.co.uk/sport/view,worth-fighting-for-the-sporting-story-of-transmale-rugby-player-verity-smit_29725.htm

So yeah, always women and girls losing out.

I'm heartbroken by the number of influential men who are using a mens sexual rights movement to actively removing oppotunities for women and girls.

Calling them "anti-trans" shows lack of attention being paid.

Unless I've missed something. It's almost entirely been female sport, right?

And some strengthening rights to single-sex spaces?

I guess his daughters don't do sports.

It’s easy for men to give our rights away, they don’t get the abuse when they try and say something is sex specific, their rights aren’t under attack, particularly if they don’t care about fairness in sport and they aren’t the people having to share intimate spaces with someone we cannot help but perceive as male in what we expect to be a female space.
But yes it’s disappointing.

Until people properly engage brain with the consequences they do say that sort of thing. I hope he comes to engage one day. It takes a remarkable blindness to say teenaged girls should just put up with fully untransitioned males in their sports and spaces. Even if you believe the lies about the effect of transition on performance.

Well it's either "anti-trans" legislation or an attempt to get a grip on an ideology that has run away with itself backed by high net worth individuals with vested interests. Not to mention the plastic surgeons etc making a huge amount of money from irreversible abs experiemental treatment on kids. Then there's the travesty of forcing girls to lose to male born people in sports to "be kind". But you do you Barrack.

These people just aren’t listening to young adults who have been through this and come out the other end - some who have made life changing decisions. How can he be so blind?

I have huge respect for this man in general, but not about how he feels over this. A lot of the bills are to protect minors having any form of gender reassignment treatments. He can frankly be disappointed till the cows come home.

He is the ex POTAS - who is going to cancel him from anything! He can say what he likes these days surely?

Always breaks my heart when I read that people I admire have been pulled into this circus.

I often wonder though, if they do genuinely have these concerns or if they have no choice but to have the woke stance in this cancel culture age?

Bleugh - that’s a PN piece via yahoo so I wouldn’t believe it if they said it was Sunday.

What a disappointment- and as a father of girls, how does he square that circle?

I’m listening to his wife’s book at the moment. I wonder if she gets it? Perhaps not. I’m always amazed at how soon those who become Uber wealthy forget the struggles of the people who populated their early lives.

I could say more but really - what is the point?