NHS badges

A good 10 years ago, but this was the case of a Christian wearing a crucifix.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk/2010/apr/06/christian-nurse-loses-battle-crucifix

Almost half of trans people (46 per cent) have tried taking their own life in the last year, 31 per cent of LGB people who aren’t trans said the same.

If this is in fact true, then we have a massive mental health crisis on our hands, an actual attempt on life is serious and needs proper timely MH care. You can't say on one hand transgenderism isn't a MH issue and then on the other make claims like this.

In my view any publicly funded institution should avoid any affiliation to any political party or cause, and yes that very much includes causes I support. Especially highly public facing ones like the Health Service and Police.

These institutions are meant to serve the public good, and that includes everyone. Even those whose political affiliations one might distasteful.

I avoid wearing ANYTHING at work that shows my political or other alliance

A number of workplaces forbid logo'd clothing, particularly if someone is public facing.

Is there any guidance or rule in the NHS about displaying religious emblems or political affiliation badges? Would a patient-facing NHS staff member be allowed to wear a crucifix pendant outside their uniform, or a SWP pin (red fist) on their lapel or lanyard?

This is not appropriate at all.

This scheme effectively means that people who wear the badge will be seen as inclusive, and those who don't as bigots.

Indeed. I think they're too divisive and therefore not appropriate. Everyone should be able to expect good, non judgemental care, this sets up an expectation that they won't.

If LGBT people feel it is difficult to access NHS healthcare (or anyone else for that matter) I think some deeper thinking and more radical action is required than wearing a lanyard tbh.

Training, full on media campaigns- isn’t this how it used to be done?

I totally see the need for something that signposts a specific skill or service eg badges that state the wearer is trained in BSL or multilingual so it’s obvious who you need to speak to about a specific need, but the NHS is should be for all, with equal treatment (that meets a specific need).
If we are to believe the NHS is riddled with homo/transphobia we need more than rainbow lanyards to sort it.

Our trust is in too much crisis to be worrying about stuff like this. we're fire fighting all of the time so none of this stuff takes up much space.
I avoid wearing ANYTHING at work that shows my political or other alliance as we're not here for that, we're here to treat patients as individuals not force beliefs onto them and the elderly don't appreciate it.

The Pride network (which, in my trust, is 80% lesbian or bi women) initiated the badges. The idea is to make LGBT people feel supported and feel safe to be open about being gay at work, if they want to do so.

80% lesbian or bi women, you say. I wonder how they established that statistic and what terminology was used in doing so.

The best comment for me was "Diversity in all things except opinion".
If you don't agree with and obey us then you are a bigot.

The letter in the above FWS link talks about speaking up and challenging intolerance and the pledge says:

“ Sometimes, you may need to call out hate speech, report incidents of discrimination or acts of verbal or physical abuse against patients, people who use our services, and staff (including contractor staff).”

However, “hate speech” and “intolerance” are not defined. I’d be uncomfortable participating without clear definitions.

What has pride for to do with different ethnicities?

Shamelessness in appropriation - that flag has been available for a while (and roundly criticised).

Re: the pressure to wear one...

One unintentional consequence that I've encountered is people who are homophobic wearing one partly, I suspect, to avoid management actually being able to, um, address their homophobia.

I'm even more confused now,

According to forwomen.scot/13/06/2021/nhs-scotland-pride-badge/ the badge also shows support for "minority ethnic groups" and the jaunty video echoes this.

What has pride for to do with different ethnicities?

Analysis of the suicide claims by FPFW:

fairplayforwomen.com/suicide/

Re: the ''statistics':

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3202419-Trans-child-suicide-stats

More nonsense in the toolkit if you click on it which says the + in LGBT+ stands for "all sexual orientations". All? Including heterosexual? We are all in the umbrella now.

Good grief.

This surely just creates a hostile working environment. Differences of opinions exist. I dont believe in God but I can Co exists and work along side people who do quite happily and easily.

How many of the people wearing the lanyards are actually lgbt? How to lgbt people actually feel about straight people using their lives and their experiences as a way to gain attention and gain approval from people. Do lgbt really want straight people making life worse for them by completely misunderstanding what phobias actually are and leaving thise who are lgbt to pick up the pieces when they move on to the next cause....

All this surely just makes stuff worse fir everyone

The suicide statistic has been widely discredited as only being a survey of 27 trans people who were self selected in that the replied to a survey done by an LGBT charity

Oneinfive LGBT+ people do not disclose their sexual orientation when seeking general medical care.

Why is sexual orientation relevant when seeking general medical care?

Almost half of trans people (46 per cent) have tried taking their own life in the last year, 31 per cent of LGB people who aren’t trans said the same.

www.nhsggc.org.uk/your-health/equalities-in-health/whats-new/nhs-scotland-pride-badge/ has a link to the pride pledge. It says people may need to call out "hate speech". Concerning given legal cases show one person's idea of hate speech is another person's free speech and legitimate opinion. There is also a link to report hate crime to the police. The hateful hate crime act is not yet law.

This scheme effectively means that people who wear the badge will be seen as inclusive, and those who don't as bigots.

*speak English as an additional language, that should read

TabithaTiger whilst I don't doubt some LGBT people still face discrimination in some settings I really would be surprised if this was the case within the NHS. I've never seen anything to suggest this is the case where I work and there are lots of gay and lesbian staff that I know of.