NHS badges

I’ve seen the staff briefing on this for NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde and it says it’s to support LGBT+ and minority ethnic people to access healthcare.

The no pressure approach is working out so well already.

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So many organisations giving TRA's the opportunity to bully women.

There is already a code of conduct for nurses and midwives

www.nmc.org.uk/globalassets/sitedocuments/nmc-publications/nmc-code.pdf

From the link up above

I am further worried by the wording of the endorsement by Caroline Lamb, Chief Executive Officer of NHS Scotland and the Director General for Health and Social Care mention “transphobia” in her endorsement. Which definition of “transphobia” are they working with and who decided upon the definition? How will it be policed? Using which policies? Did Stonewall or similar LGBT lobby group help write these policies? Yes, in many cases they did. Which definition of “hate speech” are they working with? Stonewall’s CEO Nancy Kelley recently compared those who have Gender Critical beliefs with Antisemitism, for women within the organisation who hold these beliefs the scheme does not create an environment that is open, tolerant and inclusive for all. Colin McFarlane, Director of Stonewall Scotland & NI even uses the term “gender identity” in his Endorsement when it is Gender Reassignment that is the protected characteristic in law, this indicates his intention clearly to enforce “Stonewall law” as they would like it, rather than EA2010 law as it actually is and this will have a chilling effect on the ability of NHS Scotland employees to advocate for themselves and their female service users.

NHS Scotland needs to read the room and distancing itself and employees from Stonewall, not blindly encourage us to run towards it’s death grip!”

I think it’s a way for ScotGov to sneak in claims that everyone supports self ID- I.e. get a significant proportion of NHS staff to sign the pledge without really understanding what ScotGov are going to claim it to mean and then further down the road, ScotGov says, “oh look X% of NHS staff signed the pledge, of course they support self ID!”.

I’m very cynical about the motivation of everything this (and TBF Westminster as well) govt does.

So if someone doesn’t sign the pledge does this mean they are homophobic transphobic people

How can nhs Scotland not have this in their terms of contract anyway like you won’t discriminate against anyone and do your job whoever you are treating

Why does it need a pledge

What a strange way for my government to act

Making staff sign pledges

Understandably but ForwomenScot has gone in full bore on the badge scheme:

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I'd not seen the part that (yet again) appropriates DSDs. As ClareCAIS says: Can I ask why you are dismissing the complex needs of children born with variations of sex development & conflating their needs with sexualities & gender identities. This is not an inclusive approach & leads to public confusion & loss of funding to our groups.

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I would genuinely, no sarcasm involved, like to know how many people who signed the pledge and read that (after all, reading it is part of the pledge) and thought it seemed a reasonable statistic? It would have to inform how you talked to anybody if you thought there was an almost 1 in 2 chance they'd attempted suicide in the last 12 months.

Bloody hell @EmbarrassingAdmissions

If anybody has access to other toolkits - could they check to see if the same error is in it, please?

Almost half of trans people (46 per cent) have tried taking their own life in the last year, 31 per cent of LGB people who aren’t trans said the same.

What the YouGov survey for Stonewall actually said (and I have to believe this was an honest error by whomever put together those numbers for that material):

That's right - thought, not attempted. And, there are reasons to do with the scant details of the methodology as to why that is not as startling as it seems.

I am very angry that nobody challenged this even on its face validity.

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I've gone through the support documents. Given that people who wear the badge are supposed to understand the background and issues - how is that possible when the document authors don't cite the sources for a number of those very dubious statistics?

What sort of HCPs are trusting those numbers? They don't even have face validity…

Genuinely, if everyone had to read and understand the documents before signing the pledge, what on earth was passing for the thought process or scrutiny?

I won't wear any political symbol at work apart from the NHS logo itself which I guess could be argued has political significance. I've never been asked to and I wouldn't expect to be asked. I have colleagues who do wear them. We're not really supposed to wear lanyards and badges because of infection control, though people do (flu jab badges are pretty rife). I do think this might be being overstated. There was a statement in the story that there shouldn't be any record of those who don't choose to wear them.

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The one which denies any relevance of sex?

And Gail Dines is likewise so fluent and clear that I'm quite emotional about it.

It feels like a very long time ago that I was anywhere near so nimble-minded or at ease when speaking.

I think I love Jo March, who comments on this Times article. I often see her comments on articles, and think she is so eloquent.

Sexual orientation is a protected characteristic.

Correct, not sexuality as you previously stated.

The protected characteristics are really simple and easy to get right I can't fathom why organisations such as the NHS seem to have so much difficulty doing so, couldn't be that they are parroting a certain organisations law as they would like it to be, could it?

Not sure why my message was deleted. I said that this scheme seemed to go further than the one in England, especially in reporting aspect and said it was inappropriate to include "intersex", and the NHS should know better than to include medical conditions.

Perhaps it was the scenario I invented in which asked what staff would be expected to do with an elderly patient who potentially "misgenders" someone?

“The important thing is to keep them pledging,' he explained to his cohorts. 'It doesn't matter whether they mean it or not. That's why they make little kids pledge allegiance even before they know what "pledge" and "allegiance" mean.' To Captain Piltchard and Captain Wren, the Glorious Loyalty Oath Crusade was a glorious pain in the ass, since it complicated their task of organizing the crews for each combat mission. Men were tied up all over the squadron signing, pledging and singing, and the missions took hours longer to get under way. Effective emergency action became impossible, but Captain Piltchard and Captain Wren were both too timid to raise any outcry against Captain Black, who scrupulously enforced each day the doctrine of 'Continual Reaffirmation' that he had originated, a doctrine designed to trap all those men who had become disloyal since the last time they had signed a loyalty oath the day before. It was Captain Black who came with advice to Captain Piltchard and Captain Wren as they pitched about in their bewildering predicament. He came with a delegation and advised them bluntly to make each man sign a loyalty oath before allowing him to fly on a combat mission.

However, pledging and signing up to something is a very effective social psychology technique - as ever, it's unfortunate when it's employed in questionable ways. However, many people are so confident in their moral compass that it never occurs to them to consider the inappropriate use of such phenomena. (I'm thinking of the young lawyer who contacted Sarah Phillmore in re: the obligations of being an ally and champion.)

“take the pledge” - sounds like the Hitler Youth

Sorry, we were never asked to wear any special lanyard

I work in NHS Scotland and werenever asked to wear any special type of lanyard, I wear a rainbow one because I support the LGBTQ+ cause and I like the colours

Sadly I'm not gay or transgender so I expect i'll get the usual snotty, brusque treatment when I attend appointments.
Brilliant.