Heads up: MNHQ planning to create a sex/gender topic separate from FWR.

No diagrams in the parking threads?

Remove the central threat to women's rights from the feminism boards? NO

Perhaps it's not discrimination, maybe it's the new way forward in general? No talking about plants on the gardening board, no talk about kids on the parenting board, no talking about vegetables on the vegan board...mix things up a bit?

Thank fuck for that. I hate being told that my feelings on feminism are incorrect because I'm not scared of who uses our toilets

More to the point, no one has told you you are wrong as such - you have simply been met with an onslaught of women who disagree with you.

So basically Mumsnet want to discriminate against those who hold gender critical beliefs by saying they can only be discussed in the broom cupboard?

Thank fuck for that. I hate being told that my feelings on feminism are incorrect because I'm not scared of who uses our toilets.

Crispychilli when have you been accused of that here on FWR? Have you name changed?

The other feminist sub boards (Activism, Theory, Support) barely get any traffic, do they really need to exist?

I suggested this as a separate board a few months ago, good to see this being considered smile

Surprised Coconut that you should think this as you have only posted on a few FWR threads and all of them were " trans"threads

It's one of the one with her name in the title. Though all of them discuss it, usually after someone posts something about 'women mind you manners, it doesn't mean what you think it means' type comment.

Thank fuck for that. I hate being told that my feelings on feminism are incorrect because I'm not scared of who uses our toilets.

It sounds to me that mumsnet are scared of what we may potentially say, now we cannot be called out for gender criticism!!!!

Like other posters have suggested, separate libfem + GC boards could work I think.

One of the reasons I now post on FWR is because over the years, I have got sick of trying to have discussions about feminist issues elsewhere, because it always gets derailed by the trans debate.

Discussing male violence? Someone pipes up that transwomen have it worse and accuses you of cis privilege for discussing that men murder two women a week.

Discussing sexual harassment in public places? Someone pipes up and says the discussion is cisnormative and they (a transwoman) have never been harassed in a public place and they're a woman. They explain that the article has artificially inflated the figures of sexual harassment by excluding transwomen and I'm being trans-exclusionary.

This actually happened.

It goes on and on. It is disruption for the sake of it, and so I came back to MN, which at that point, I still regarded as transphobic, because at least no-one would be using accusations of transphobia to derail feminist discussion.

If you want to see phenomenon for yourself, this thread recorded in real time as an FGM campaigner got called transphobic for... not mentioning transwomen. www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a4170253-Anti-FGM-campaigner-Hibo-Wardere-comes-under-attack

This proposal sounds like manna from heaven for the types I describe.

Why not have a new board for people who want to discuss feminist issues but don’t care whether female is defined as a biological reality or a feeling?

I think its a bad idea. As others have said, the sex vs gender issue runs through everything relating to women's rights, its not some sort of niche, special interest issue. Separating it off is essentially just saying we don't want too many people to stumble across this, lets hide it away. No.

I second the idea of a new lib fem board instead, would be interesting. Also maybe there could be some way of preventing duplicate threads on the same topic, or amalgamating them? That might help to show the spread of topics better. And if you want to discuss something, start a thread! It's not hard.

I do sometimes think it may be a problem with the app sometimes on a board I'll only get so many topics listed. Although typically it does seem to be working ok today.

I also notice that some days, there are so many threads in use that a day's threads may drift to the next page. This is how important it is to keep this board as it is.

If there are more than fifty active threads in one day, there is a whole lot of discussion going on. I have left other forums because of stagnant threads.

If there is a board for feminism that defines it as not on the basis of sex, what’s the point?

Surely anyone interested in feminism for females as opposed to whoever fancies women’s rights themselves will just move to the other board.

I think the plan is divisive.

GrammarTeacher

I was once told that my posts were like essays. I did laugh at that. I was also told how absolutely horrible I was on AIBU because I did not like people sitting on my low garden wall. I still do post though on AIBU.

Why would you let someone's opinion stop you posting about something that you feel strongly about? When someone tells me that I am not a feminist, I just agree. I probably don't fit the mould of a British feminist, but that is ok, because FWR is a hugely diverse chat session and I learn a great deal from listening and interacting with others here. Even if I don't agree with them at all, or just in part.

The constant challenge is all part of the journey.

If there are people who want an additional board to discuss other issues then I think it's up to them to make the case for one, think up a name for it etc. I don't see why an established, well used and fast moving board should be the one that has to be moved.

@GrammarTeacher, which thread were you posting on? I'd like to read what was said for myself.