Page 3 | The Baroness on R4 Today after 8am

Ridcully82 · 2021-06-11T06:32:02+00:00

Just heard she'll be on then,just FYI.

Nettleship · 11/06/2021 07:44

@Cwenthryth I know, that infuriated me!

If you genuinely think that the belief that there are two biological sexes and no human can literally change biological sex (although they can of course express their gender identity however they like) is so ridiculous and outrageous, own it!

The fact that it always gets twisted to something far more extreme suggests that even HB knows that it's a belief that the vast majority of the population would consider entirely reasonable and be astonished that anyone could lose their job over thinking that.

UppityPuppity · 11/06/2021 07:43

Thanks - will listen back - did HB bother to mention that distinction between males and females is also a protected characteristic and you can only uphold this, and the legal right single sex spaces for women’s safety, dignity and privacy if you can make reference to it - as now protected thanks to Maya.

AntiSocialDistancer · 11/06/2021 07:42

@Cwenthryth

They just interviewed Helen Belcher as well just before 07:30, I only caught the second half of it, but Belcher stated “but if you insist that transwomen are a threat to women” which went unchallenged (we don’t think all transwomen are a threat to women.....we just don’t agree that you are women, and that belief is protected).

I'm now maintaining the view from Simon Fanshawe that safeguarding for children doesn't mean we believe all adults are predators, but the safeguards must be put in place. Same for self ID in my arguments from now on.

Cwenthryth · 11/06/2021 07:41

The interview with Helen Belcher starts at 07:21

Belcher thinks the applications of the Forstater judgement are “quite limited” 😂

AntiSocialDistancer · 11/06/2021 07:39

Enjoyed listening to Mishal Husain very much! She was talking with Helen Belcher at around 7.30 on the same show.

Very neatly walked HB into some points they couldnt argue with.

Although Helen appears to be under the idea that you can think anything, youre not allowed to say it outloud

Also - be careful feminists! Someone might say women should stay at home now! Sure youve never heard that before!!!

Cwenthryth · 11/06/2021 07:38

They just interviewed Helen Belcher as well just before 07:30, I only caught the second half of it, but Belcher stated “but if you insist that transwomen are a threat to women” which went unchallenged (we don’t think all transwomen are a threat to women.....we just don’t agree that you are women, and that belief is protected).