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All school toilets in Brighton to become gender neutral

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SapphosRock · 10/06/2021 18:21

I'm not happy about this at all.

I have a DD and keep thinking how she would feel changing a pad in year 7 or 8 with a group of year 11 boys in the same toilets as her.

It's always the girls who lose out by being 'inclusive'.

Any suggestions on what I can do?

www.theargus.co.uk/news/19361363.gender-neutral-toilets-introduced-brighton-schools/

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DirectionsForUse · 10/06/2021 18:35

Surely this is preferable to the old toilet "block" and removes many an opportunity for bullying?

Maybe things are different now but the girls loos were somewhere you only went if you really needed to when I was at school. It was where all the nasty girls (and I'm sure, boys) hung out ready pounce on their next victim safely out of the view of staff.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 10/06/2021 18:33

@DirectionsForUse

I really can't see an issue. Floor to ceiling cubicles with washing facilities and a sanibin in each cubicle.
Speaking as a woman who has suffered domestic abuse I very much can see an issue. Not that it is necessary to have gone through that to want separate spaces.

Women need separate spaces. I would not want to use any public toilet and men be in the same space as me.

DirectionsForUse · 10/06/2021 18:31

I really can't see an issue. Floor to ceiling cubicles with washing facilities and a sanibin in each cubicle.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 10/06/2021 18:30

This is so fucking wrong.

I hate how making the doors floor to ceiling is deemed acceptable. It's not. It's just not.

After that article today about the disgusting abuse teenage girls are receiving from their male classmates, the constant requests for nudes, as well as the number who are sexually assaulted in school, what kind of idiot thinks mixed sex toilets are a good idea?

Why has safeguarding gone out of the window for this generation of children? Why do women and girls matter so little?

highame · 10/06/2021 18:29

Hasn't the government said that all new builds have to have single sex and others have to have a partition. Robert Jenrick is the Communities Secretary who is firming up the regulations so Brighton would be in breech

womansplaceuk.org/2021/05/16/government-to-strengthen-regulations-on-single-sex-toilets/ There is more recent informati9on but I can't find right now. I believe its already been announced

midgedude · 10/06/2021 18:28

Or does this square with the fact that girls in particular are suffering huge amounts of sexual harressment in schools?

Erikrie · 10/06/2021 18:28

Have they done an impact assessment? I'd ask for a copy of that.

Erikrie · 10/06/2021 18:26

I think some toilets can be like that to provide for children with disabilities etc, but in addition to, not instead of.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 10/06/2021 18:26

www.transgendertrend.com/schools-resources/

They have a specific critique of this toolkit which is free to download as well as guides to the law around this.

Erikrie · 10/06/2021 18:25

Separate toilet and washing facilities must be provided for boys and girls aged 8 years and over pursuant to Regulation 4 of the School Premises (England) Regulations 2012, which falls within the exemption provided for in Schedule 22 of the Equality Act 2010

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SapphosRock · 10/06/2021 18:24

Yes, which is something I suppose:

It suggests this should include “blocks of ceiling cubicle toilets that can be used by all, with bins for menstrual products in each cubicle (‘toilets for everyone’)”.

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Erikrie · 10/06/2021 18:22

That doesn't sound right. Are they floor to ceiling doors with washbasin?