I'm sorry, what now?

WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 2021-06-09T19:05:54+00:00

Uhhhh... crochetxr? What? What's wrong with the actual word? Is the letter E offensive? [confused]

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WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 09/06/2021 22:22

I often refer to myself as a hooker

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woopdedoodle · 09/06/2021 22:20

@jellyfrizz

If that actually made any sense wouldn't they be crochetess' as a femme thing?

Hookers may be, sorry , I'll get my coat.

Nonmaquillee · 09/06/2021 22:13

@WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo

As annoying as their mix of pronouns is they aren't the worst I've seen...

Oh Christ that’s beyond belief

AdHominemNonSequitur · 09/06/2021 22:11

@Wrongsideofhistorymyarse

Surely it should be crochxt?

What a load of bollx.

:). Indeed. This is straight from the Postmodern play book. Control the narrative by controlling language.

There is a Pew survey about this from last year, easily googlable, most Latin Americans in the US have never heard the term, of those that have a massive majority find it offensive. I expect though I don't know if there is data on it, that it will be even more pronounced in Latin America itself.

You really couldn't make it up

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 09/06/2021 21:55

Surely it should be crochxt?

What a load of bollx.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 09/06/2021 21:10

[quote PinkyU]@EishetChayil LatinX replaces the typical term of racial identity of Latino because it’s a masculine word and so LatinX of both sexes heavily campaign for the change in language to be sex inclusive, particularly on official documents where Latino is used as an identifier for both men and women incorrectly.

There’s lots of info and explanations of it on the internet rather than making assumptions (especially when your assumption is the antithesis of the actual meaning).[/quote]
Nah, it's cultural imperialism imposed from without by native English speakers who can't handle gendered languages or the idea that each language has a structure of its own.

Original poster

WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 09/06/2021 21:09

As annoying as their mix of pronouns is they aren't the worst I've seen...

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jellyfrizz · 09/06/2021 21:07

If that actually made any sense wouldn't they be crochetess' as a femme thing?

Hallyup6 · 09/06/2021 21:06

I think this bloke needs a psychiatrist.

Either that or I do because I believe my brain has just broken.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/06/2021 20:54

The term Latin American works if you don't want to use Latino or Latina. Or Hispanic. Or even 'Latine' if you have to. I'm not Hispanic but when I asked a friend who is, she said that 'Latinx' is a weird imposition by white English-speaking people who don't understand how pronunciation or grammatical gender works in other languages.

My Latina friend uses that about herself and just whatever descriptor works otherwise. Country, region, language. You don't need some made up, unpronounceable word.

Wbeezer · 09/06/2021 20:51

I think the diversity wars in knitting were race based but there is certainly a lot of virtue signaling about. LGBTQ stuff going on too

Chrysanthemum5 · 09/06/2021 20:50

I read something today about how womxn as a word is transphobic as it contains an X which indicates female chromosomes. So maybe someone should tell them

CthulhuChristmas · 09/06/2021 20:48

[quote PinkyU]@EishetChayil LatinX replaces the typical term of racial identity of Latino because it’s a masculine word and so LatinX of both sexes heavily campaign for the change in language to be sex inclusive, particularly on official documents where Latino is used as an identifier for both men and women incorrectly.

There’s lots of info and explanations of it on the internet rather than making assumptions (especially when your assumption is the antithesis of the actual meaning).[/quote]
Actually, the majority of Hispanic people haven't even heard the term, and only a tiny fraction use it.
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/latin/9514370/latinx-term-latin-community/

The term Latin American works if you don't want to use Latino or Latina. Or Hispanic. Or even 'Latine' if you have to. I'm not Hispanic but when I asked a friend who is, she said that 'Latinx' is a weird imposition by white English-speaking people who don't understand how pronunciation or grammatical gender works in other languages.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/06/2021 20:43

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3703610-Cast-Off-Diversity-wars-are-raging-in-the-knitting-world

PinkyU · 09/06/2021 20:40

@EishetChayil LatinX replaces the typical term of racial identity of Latino because it’s a masculine word and so LatinX of both sexes heavily campaign for the change in language to be sex inclusive, particularly on official documents where Latino is used as an identifier for both men and women incorrectly.

There’s lots of info and explanations of it on the internet rather than making assumptions (especially when your assumption is the antithesis of the actual meaning).

EishetChayil · 09/06/2021 20:32

Whenever I see those woke x's, I always sound it out in my head. Womksin. Latinks. Crochetkser.

And what in the name of god are those pronouns about?

Immunetypegoblin · 09/06/2021 20:28

Ooh, I remember the knitting purity spiral thing!!

FuriousAndFrustrated · 09/06/2021 20:27

@80Days

Typo?

More likely to be navel-gazing pillock!

Deliriumoftheendless · 09/06/2021 20:26

So that’s why Americans called Es X back in the day. That’s where it all began!

TheWeeDonkey · 09/06/2021 20:22

Crafting beyond gender?

SirSamuelVimes · 09/06/2021 20:22

@MrsOvertonsWindow

I believe that the knitting and sewing circles are some of the most vicious in terms of the 'gender wars' and purity spirals. So be very careful in case we attract the attention of the crochetxrs.

Yes I'm sure I remember reading something last year or the year before about just insane gender woo purity spirals in the world of knitting??

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/06/2021 20:21

I believe that the knitting and sewing circles are some of the most vicious in terms of the 'gender wars' and purity spirals. So be very careful in case we attract the attention of the crochetxrs.

80Days · 09/06/2021 20:20

Typo?

TabbyStar · 09/06/2021 20:19

George Perec wrote a novel in 1969, La Dispirition entirely without the letter e using Oulipo constraints. Maybe it's like that.

CigarsofthePharoahs · 09/06/2021 20:18

When it out satires the actual satire except it's real.