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Starmer and the Labour Party Really Cannot Read the Room

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ChristinaXYZ · 09/06/2021 17:19

Labour and Self-id

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1402586773499244549

Rosie Duffield gets the predictable kicking in the comments. Still no public support for her. That's what the Labour leadership think about women's rights and women who have an opinion.

Why any women would vote Labour I really do not know.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 18/06/2021 07:44

Looks like Labour really are more concerned with intellectual purity than anything else.

It’s incredibly sad & disappointing at just how far down the rabbit hole they are but it is what it is

So long Labour, I voted for you all my life. Thanks for shitting on women you absolute bunch of bastards

FOJN · 18/06/2021 07:37

According to their website, "Labour Nexus is a campaign force to unite our party and bring Labour to Downing Street". Their aims are listed know their website.

labournexus.org.uk/

I'm not sure reporting a Labour councillor and demanding he is punished for having an opinion is the best way forward if unity is your aim.

PronounssheRa · 18/06/2021 07:22

Who are 'Labour Nexus'?

They claim to be a campaign group, who are a broad church who welcome and respect different opinions. Apart from those relating to womens rights, obviously

Starmer and the Labour Party Really Cannot Read the Room
Letsgetreadytocrumble · 18/06/2021 07:11

That statement! 😂

Who are 'Labour Nexus'?

DdraigGoch · 18/06/2021 01:28

@Tesla73

very interesting point made in the comments on that article:

Harry Goldstein says:
June 15, 2021 at 9:56 am
An excellent article.. However, I tried to link to it on Facebook and I got the following message:

This URL goes against our Community Standards on spam:
labour-uncut.co.uk
To protect people on Facebook from spam, we don’t allow content that contains such URLs.

Were you aware that this censorship was going on?

Funny how their concerns about spam never quite manage to deal with the witch doctor and bitcoin peddlers who appear in the comments on what seems like every post.
SirVixofVixHall · 18/06/2021 00:11

@AtrociousCircumstance

If Starmer spoke up for the rights of women, he could win.
I agree. He was such a bloody disappointment on here though, he weaseled out of everything. I lost any respect for him after that. He needs to grow a spine.
FOJN · 17/06/2021 23:51

Laurie Burton has been reported to the Labour Party, and we sincerely hope that the leadership will defy our low expectations and punish him.

This was the most concerning line for me, manipulative, bullying and vengeful. Who would want to be associated with that.

YellowFish12 · 17/06/2021 23:39

Is it libel? Calling someone a transphobe with no evidence of any transphobic actions or statements?

CrossPurposes · 17/06/2021 23:33

That is a terrifying mindset.

YellowFish12 · 17/06/2021 23:27

Admitting

YellowFish12 · 17/06/2021 23:27

On 10 June, Laurie posted a tweet describing the procedural decision in favour of high-profile transphobe Maya Forstater at an employment tribunal as a “victory for women’s rights” and a “victory for free speech”, invoking two dangerous transphobic tropes

So that’s it, women’s rights ARE transphobic? At least they are admiring the conflict at least.

FOJN · 17/06/2021 23:26

It's beyond depressing. I keep hoping for a sign they haven't forgotten women are human they just seem to reinforce their contempt for us at every opportunity.

Golden2021 · 17/06/2021 23:19

That's fucking awful.

Dotoallasyouwouldbedoneby · 15/06/2021 18:49

[quote BoreOfWhabylon]Excellent article from Rob Marchant in Labour Uncut

labour-uncut.co.uk/2021/06/14/starmers-disastrous-pride/[/quote]
Very good article for explaining to 'woke' offspring what they may have overlooked.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/06/2021 13:47

teawamutu

Funny you say that. I'm younger than OJ, have been known to dye my hair blue, used to think TWAW and... I have already grown out of it.

I now care far more about safeguarding the vulnerable than I do about "being sexist against men" which I used to see as a huge concern with it.

Tesla73 · 15/06/2021 12:06

very interesting point made in the comments on that article:

Harry Goldstein says:
June 15, 2021 at 9:56 am
An excellent article.. However, I tried to link to it on Facebook and I got the following message:

This URL goes against our Community Standards on spam:
labour-uncut.co.uk
To protect people on Facebook from spam, we don’t allow content that contains such URLs.

Were you aware that this censorship was going on?

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/06/2021 11:41

Excellent article from Rob Marchant in Labour Uncut

labour-uncut.co.uk/2021/06/14/starmers-disastrous-pride/

teawamutu · 15/06/2021 10:11

@highame

LOJ is really sure of himself isn't he? He is absolutely sure that the 'wrong think' of the centre will be turned around. As soon as those pesky boomers bite the dust, the free world will have the delights of Queer theory and CRT and be glad of it. He doesn't accept there is a centre ground.
He also doesn't accept that these young, blue-haired, CRT/TWAW enthusiasts will get older, accumulate mortgages and children, and potentially change their views a bit.

My 18yo self would probably have loved Corbyn, longed for a pure socialist govt and trusted OJ.

Several decades on... Would still love to vote Labour but I'm very definitely more centrist.

IvyTwines2 · 15/06/2021 10:05

@teawamutu

I've seen people assuming all of those, Ddraig.

The one option they rarely choose is an entirely physically unaltered, male-bodied person in stereotypically feminine clothing. That one tends to startle most people.

Most people I know think it refers to someone born male who would in youth have been considered gay and has then had what used to be called sex-change surgery. They don't believe me when I explain the category includes fully male bodied heterosexuals, even when they're married with children. They just assume those men who come out as cross-dressers later in life were in-the-closet gay men and their marriage was somehow societally forced on them. The notion of a heterosexual male as 'trans', wearing make up and dresses, still does not compute with them.
teawamutu · 15/06/2021 09:46

I've seen people assuming all of those, Ddraig.

The one option they rarely choose is an entirely physically unaltered, male-bodied person in stereotypically feminine clothing. That one tends to startle most people.

DdraigGoch · 15/06/2021 09:07

@EndoplasmicReticulum

I'd be interested to know, among the general public - what they understand a "transgender woman" to be. Are people assuming fully medically transitioned with surgery / hormones etc. Or transgender as in the Stonewall umbrella defintion which is much broader? Was this clear in the question?
Or indeed have people got it completely the wrong way around when answering and have assumed that "transgender woman" means "female who is transgender [and now identifies as a 'man']"?
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 15/06/2021 08:30

I wish he'd just go and join the Northern Independence party.

PandorasMailbox · 15/06/2021 08:18

@ArabellaScott

Hm, wow, can anyone think of anything? If only there was a hashtag or something, maybe something about LabourLosing a particular demographic that is actually quite a sizeable chunk of the population. That might be quite useful. For insight.
#Labourlosingwimpund #Labourlosingwomxn
Tanith · 15/06/2021 08:12

Everything LOJ does is to the detriment of the Labour Party, whatever he says.