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Starmer and the Labour Party Really Cannot Read the Room

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ChristinaXYZ · 09/06/2021 17:19

Labour and Self-id

twitter.com/PinkNews/status/1402586773499244549

Rosie Duffield gets the predictable kicking in the comments. Still no public support for her. That's what the Labour leadership think about women's rights and women who have an opinion.

Why any women would vote Labour I really do not know.

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DaisiesandButtercups · 09/06/2021 17:53

How can he be so oblivious?!

He clearly has no clue about the issues.

Really disappointing, I held out hope for so long. I think it is finally time to cancel my direct debit. Evidently Labour hates women and girls or thinks we don’t count as human beings at all.

giletrouge · 09/06/2021 17:52

Starmer is such a massive disappointment. I actually said OUT LOUD yesterday that I could imagine voting Tory just because no other party gets this right I NEVER EVER EVER THOUGHT I would have to think it, let alone say it. My partner nearly dropped dead with surprise.

FOJN · 09/06/2021 17:52

That room is far bigger than your echo chamber.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Many posters on AIBU don't visit the feminist board but every time an issue like this comes up (see link below) posters overwhelmingly reject anything which erases women as a sex class or imposes some new restriction on them about the way they are "permitted" to talk about their experiences as women.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4265603-Wtf-ModiBodi-a-menstruating-person

RoyalCorgi · 09/06/2021 17:50

Orf1abc - yup. I'm absolutely certain that in the Red Wall constituencies, this is the defining issue that will make them start voting Labour again. "Thank god that Starmer is finally making it possible for men to legally identify as women," they're all saying. "It's what we've all been waiting for."

highame · 09/06/2021 17:49

Don't forget he has real issues with the corbynites and without a backbone, even though he knows what must be done, he wont be able to act. I am not sure he was ever, even slightly in the GC camp. He will never be able to understand the plight of an under privileged woman.

Orf1abc · 09/06/2021 17:43

In this respect (though not in many others) he is reading the room.

That room is far bigger than your echo chamber.

BettyFilous · 09/06/2021 17:40

@Letsgetreadytocrumble

Starmer is going to have to pick a side on this soon, he can't keep fence sitting because he will end up losing support from everyone.
It looks like he has. 😕
AnyFucker · 09/06/2021 17:40

That man has turned out to be such a disappointment

FOJN · 09/06/2021 17:37

Well that was cringe inducing, there was so little conviction in his words.

Who is advising KS? I didn't watch but I hear people thought he came across well in the Piers Morgan interview and then he wastes all that capital doing this in a week where Stonewall are under scrutiny for giving inaccurate advice to companies in it DCS. It comes across as self sabotaging.

Only someone who doesn't understand the issues with same sex attracted people transitioning or Stonewall redefining same sex as same gender attraction would mention conversion therapy.

Looks like Labour don't think they need the women's vote to win which wouldn't bother me so much if they were actually a credible opposition but they're not.

Starmer is going to have to pick a side on this soon,

I think he's just told us where he stands on the issue.

AtrociousCircumstance · 09/06/2021 17:29

If Starmer spoke up for the rights of women, he could win.

ChristinaXYZ · 09/06/2021 17:29

Great point by another tweeter:

“Silence is not an option, unless one of my female MPs is being relentlessly bullied and intimidated by misogynists because she knows females have a cervix, in which case silence is all I’ve got.”

twitter.com/Mumoftwo1329/status/1402657490026835970

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Letsgetreadytocrumble · 09/06/2021 17:27

Starmer is going to have to pick a side on this soon, he can't keep fence sitting because he will end up losing support from everyone.

zanahoria · 09/06/2021 17:25

Keir says we cannot stay silent then says as little as possible

Tillied · 09/06/2021 17:23

Considering how crap the current government is, the fact that they made gains in the recent elections shows just how extremely and ridiculously crap Labour are; quite an achievement actually.