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Maya's judgement Thursday 10th June 10.30am

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/06/2021 18:13

Wishing her the very best of luck. twitter.com/MForstater/status/1402310977115279362?s=20

I'll be absolutely gutted if the original decision isn't overturned, but at least her case has let a lot of sunlight in.

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Cwenthryth · 10/06/2021 20:53

Like the time that Dr Haddock tweeted that there should be toilets just for T**Fs to keep them away from transwomen (so tw would be ‘safe’ from us) and GC women were like.....yeah we’d be down with that Ade 😂

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 10/06/2021 20:20

@Cwenthryth

The TRAs are arguing on Twitter that if GC feminists want their own spaces then they should campaign for them What exactly do they think the campaigns to retain the right to single sex spaces is!??!

Not so much for some people with the ability to engage critical thinking.

Cwenthryth · 10/06/2021 20:18

The TRAs are arguing on Twitter that if GC feminists want their own spaces then they should campaign for them
What exactly do they think the campaigns to retain the right to single sex spaces is!??!

ShagMeRiggins · 10/06/2021 19:39

The TRAs are arguing on Twitter that if GC feminists want their own spaces then they should campaign for them.

Fucking hell. The sheer nerve and ignorance of that.

Maya played a blinder and we’re all better off for it (and I mean all of society). Huge admiration and congratulations.

Cailleach1 · 10/06/2021 19:16

@Defaultname

The Youtube is Miss Otis Regrets.

Thanks for posting that. It was so beautiful. Sad, but beautiful. Ella's voice like rich warm honey.

Tibtom · 10/06/2021 18:58

Woman's Hour had wanted to record an interview with Maya on the day of the verdict as an exclusive and then edit and broadcast it at their leisure.

BlueBrush · 10/06/2021 18:42

@Threadbaretoe

With regard to the pivot:

"We've never said sex isn't real and/or important"

"Stonewall has never said it wants to do away with sex as a category/sex segregated spaces."

The sensible thing is to say great - a misunderstanding then, and continue with our work in securing sex based rights.

The whole 'did they/ didn't they' detracts from the forward momentum. I expect now there is allowed to be a debate this may be the new distraction posed.

It has been confirmed that a focus on sex based rights is legitimate.

We can just keep on pulling, focusing on what we want for women and girls (sex based definitions) and ignore those who want to get into arguments that detract from this.

Yes, very good point. And let's just keep framing this in terms of what we're working towards (securing rights and safety of women and girls), and reject the framing that this is about hateful attitudes toward trans people - as represented in that appalling BBC news website article today.

(I've been following this thread all day but only just getting round to posting, so I'm adding my and thanks to Maya.)

midgedude · 10/06/2021 18:25

BBC just had a couple of sentences on the main news. Factual. Just the verdict ( dh noted no "other POV "

PIKNIK20 · 10/06/2021 18:17

Congratulations Maya, it has been long time coming. I was also waiting for Evan Davies to discuss the issue. He did, though even a short interview with Maya would have been better. The best place for an interview with her would have been Woman's Hour but I do not think it will happen as they declined her the interview after the hearing about a month ago (though it had been scheduled, but they replaced it with an exciting discussion about sharing the bathwater...). They told her that they wanted to interview her after the verdict, but she said it would have been like interviewing the sufragettes AFTER they had won the vote...So we need to turn to The Times and The Mess We Are In on you tube to see and watch the interviews. BBC is too woke to talk about women's rights.

BoreOfWhabylon · 10/06/2021 18:11

@TheSingingRingingTree

Does this ruling mean that workplaces cannot demand that employees include pronouns in email signatures or encourage employees to declare pronouns in meetings for example?

In no way am I suggesting that transgender people should be misgendered, they are of course free to share or not share their preferred pronouns.

Yes! I was just thinking this too

CriticalCondition · 10/06/2021 17:54

Evan Davis is framing it as if Maya made comments to colleagues. Don't let the facts of this case get in the way of your views , will you Evan.

RedDogsBeg · 10/06/2021 17:53

Regarding the CGD statement, it reads as if the reason they fired Maya was because of her beliefs, as her beliefs are now protected that surely doesn't auger well for the Tribunal which may be why their lawyers are looking into it

nauticant · 10/06/2021 17:49

I take back my snark. Maya's case is being covered and Davis is engaging with the discussion responsibly.

Tibtom · 10/06/2021 17:49

Accidentally 'misgendering' someone is not enough to count as harassment. Nor would using the correct pronoun in the absence of knowledge/memory. Constantly references someones sex could though. On the other hand insisting everyone announce their pronouns or referring to someone as 'cis' who was GC would also be harassment.

Moorlander · 10/06/2021 17:44

Ooh, posted too soon!

CriticalCondition · 10/06/2021 17:44

Here we go...

borntobequiet · 10/06/2021 17:43

@CriticalCondition

Evan Davis is laughing about eyebrows and the Kardashians on PM.

I was just about to mention that. So annoying. I’ve emailed them.

BettyFilous · 10/06/2021 17:43

@nauticant

Evan Davis now enjoying the segment about Keeping Up with the Kardashians. But they're still strugging to find space for today's landmark legal case.

The headline item is mealy-mouthed and, dare I say it, misleading. It was not her “approach” that was criticised, it was her beliefs - which have now been upheld as lawful, protected, widely held and consistent with the law. The BBC are wankers.

PandorasMailbox · 10/06/2021 17:42

One of the replies to CGD is:

“U ok hun”

My favourite is this one

Maya's judgement Thursday 10th June 10.30am

CriticalCondition · 10/06/2021 17:41

Why does the BBC persist in news bulletins repeating the finding of the original tribunal that Maya's belief was NOT worthy of respect in a democratic society? Why not report the finding of the appeal tribunal that it IS worthy of respect?

Oh.

Bunshaped · 10/06/2021 17:40

Serious BBC news programme PM thinks a little chat about the end of the Kardashians TV show is more important than the Maya case.

OK then

Moorlander · 10/06/2021 17:39

Also listening to PM, Evan hasn't even had to mention it, the newsreader is just reading the headlines and it is soooooo squeezed out of the programme.

Threadbaretoe · 10/06/2021 17:36