If you avoid the feminist section then at least read this article

So it doesn’t matter how much damage she causes to say, women suffering from mental health issues because she’s happy to slag off a group of people you don’t agree with? @Pumperthepumper

Same reason some of them can support Trump. Sure he's a rapist of children and adults, domestic abuser, abandoned his children to their mothers, used prostitutes to cheat on his pregnant wife, child groomer, openly brags about sexual assault, walks in on teen girl changing, politically anti-abortion/maternity leave/accessible healthcare/birth control/social safety net programs/worker's rights never mind all of his other many issues that impact women of color, disabled women, etc. But he's anti-trans so he's better than "Creepy Joe." Feminism on this website in a nutshell.

So how am I to get outraged about something I or no one I know has experienced

I don’t know any Jewish people. Doesn’t mean I don’t get pissed off by anti-semitism.

maybe mumsnet needs to change its name

The Ministerial and other Maternity Allowances Act came very close to not including the words 'woman' or 'mother'. The House of Lords pushed back but only because women on places like Mumsnet have drawn this issue to the attention to HoL members.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-56204865.amp

Oh come on! They suggested changing the wording of a new clause, it was rejected, and that’s your evidence that not using ‘mother’ is now widespread? You must be able to do better than ‘something that might have happened but didn’t’.

Sarah Vine couldn’t give a shit about anyone except Sarah Vine

Provided father, dad and daddy is replaced with prostate haver, or inseminator.

So how am I to get outraged about something I or no one I know has experienced

I literally provided a link to a BBC news article about a recent Act that passed which almost removed the word 'mother'. It was about maternity leave for politicians.

Maybe you haven't experienced it, but that doesn't mean it isn't happening.

Of course trans men are important but so are women and as a pregnant woman and mother to be myself I want to be referred to as such.

You still can be referred to as such. The guidelines are about choice and inclusion. If you choose to be called a mother then literally no one is going to refuse to do so.

That’s not what the Scottish NHS site says.

You clearly missed the fight in the Scottish Parliament to ensure that women who had been raped could request a same sex examiner rather than an examiner who identifies as a woman. Look up Johan Lamont's amendment to the Bill if you don't believe me and think very carefully why this amendment had to be put forward, it should never have been necessary.

Is @RedthroatedCaracara actually one of Sarah Vine's MN socks?

Poor effort and I'm not clicking that link.

There are lots and lots of brilliant GC women who do excellent work standing up for women's rights. I don't see the point in drawing attention to that bottom feeding bigot.

It is not transphobic to want the word 'woman' to retain a meaningful definition. It is not transphobic to have concerns that the word 'mother' is being eroded from official language.

the words woman and mother are being written out of legal, medical and social language

But they’re not are they really
In the many dealings I’ve had with public services , children’s services , education, the NHS etc in recent years not ONCE have I
Come across this

And nor has anyone I know

So how am I to get outraged about something I or no one I know has experienced

If it wasn’t for MN and silly DM articles it wouldn’t even be on my radar

I have far more in common with a transwoman, than with the type of women like you who seek to exclude and judge others

What, like your biology? Righty ho

I keep seeing articles and tweets etc pop up about this, and thinking surely it would be so much better if antenatal/postnatal care for transmen was dealt with separately to mainstream maternity care?

There must be so many additional things to consider such as monitoring the effects of the hormones on the baby, the mental health impacts of being pregnant and giving birth as a dysphoric person as well as all the language.

It makes much more sense to provide a separate tailored service to this tiny tiny minority of people than trying to shoehorn them into the current system and making millions of women feel erased and uncomfortable in the process.

Of course trans men are important but so are women and as a pregnant woman and mother to be myself I want to be referred to as such.

I suspect it is more to avoid upsetting transwomen, who like to think they are women in every possible way, and don’t want to be faced with the reality that these are exclusively female experiences that will never happen to them.

What a disgusting comment. Thousands of women don't have "exclusively female experiences", that doesn't make us less of a woman than you are.

I have far more in common with a transwoman, than with the type of women like you who seek to exclude and judge others.

So basically if we can't stand transphobes, tough shit, we should read transphobic Daily Hate articles just because? Hmm

Ahh, the transphobe slurs. Well if concerns about the safeguards of women and children make me a transphobe then that's fine. As clearly the word transphobe has been redefined as well to mean someone who actually gives a shit.

Mermaids - smaller scale Total income: £902,437 with 18 employees.

No of these organisations are the kitchen table/student groups that they may portray.

They are organisations raising significant sums of money to support their cause - rent to pay, employees to pay etc.

I think a number of these charities have probably now lost their way due to the kicking they give females on social media. Some of the comments on social media have been shameful with them holding the view that savage attacks are the best way ahead.

Cue best Adam impression - eye rolling and "females. Brilliant" lol

That’s not what the Scottish NHS site says.

But tell me - how does the Scottish govt define 'female'?

So basically if we can't stand transphobes, tough shit, we should read transphobic Daily Hate articles just because? Hmm

These experiences (pregnancy, giving birth, breastfeeding) have never happened to me. I like to think I'm no less a woman because of that

Not all women experience pregnancy and childbirth but only women do.

'Females' is a Martin Goodman though, isn't it?