The Ministry of Justice has left Stonewall

All the Government Departments and the Police and NHS need to come out of the scheme now, no excuses.

Government also needs to put put a statement saying that any Public Institution, Local Government, Business or Company that is incorrectly listing the protected characteristics of the EQA using the Stonewall preferred options is at odds with the Act and furthermore toilets are segregated on the basis of sex not gender identity.

Someone did ask on the webchat with the minister for safeguarding how they worked with government to prevent influence and regulatory capture across departments.

HQ deleted the question.

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“This is great news however someone somewhere high up needs to do a review into how Stonewall managed to infiltrate all the organisations and have so much influence. This needs to not happen again, we need checks in place.”

You’re absolutely right, but I’d want to see it expanded to investigate whether other groups have similar influence.
Government organisations especially are supposed to be impartial.

Stonewall's unlawful, discriminatory, extremist position.

Boom.

Now let's pin down

What exactly is unlawful about the position?
What exactly is discriminatory about the position?
what exactly is extremist about the position?

Where are these elements and how are they currently affecting policy, practice, staff beliefs, work culture? Particularly HR and work place provision?

What is the plan for identifying and ridding the MoJ and all other departing places of them?

We're not far now from the final point of recognition that everything Stonewall has had a hand in is compromised, and needs rooting out and re-doing from the ground up, by an employee without a history of training by SW. All policies. All training reviewed and corrected. The Lot.

What a day! Glorious.

Interesting that the reasons are becoming more honest. I wonder if some of the 'for budgetary reasons' leavers will choose to give more information as time goes on?

Good news that companies are listening.

The bench book is like a stick of rock with 'stonewall' running through it.

@highame

The Equal Bench book is probably going to get a bit of a re-write

How the hell someone senior did not see that this opens up the whole judicial system to potential accusations of bias against women is beyond me. One for the public enquiry that we all want.

Not an 'equal treatment' bench book at all

Incredible that we ever ended up here. But here we are. Glad some sense is starting to seep back in. Wonder when MNHQ will catch up, as they seem to be going in the opposite direction.

I think a large part of the 'wobble' was MNHQ feeling that it was getting difficult to attract big-hitter politicians on for webchats.

Hopefully this 'exodus from Stonewall' validates and strengthens MN's position as a relevant and significant web host.

I'd like to see webchats now with Rosie Duffield and Liz Truss. They'd get good questions and a decent, fair hearing.

Yes, there's one in the Police but I think two of those who run the show are now being investigated - can't give more details, have forgotten where I read it, might have been FairCop who I think have been feeding into some of the Nationals (Times are doing some investigating and I think it was there).

I agree about the Lobby stuff overton but am feeling a lot more optimistic today

As part of the inquiry that needs to be held the impact on women of SW's involvement needs to be investigated and apologies and reparations made to individual women and groups.

Great news. But there are a number of other trans lobby groups well embedded in the MoJ and currently influencing where male born paedophiles and sex offenders are housed.
They need to be removed OR balanced with some groups representing the interests of vulnerable and abused women currently being imprisoned alongside these criminals who are a real threat to women and children.

The Equal Bench book is probably going to get a bit of a re-write

Different Justice system dyslek but might cause a bit of a stir north of the border

yes, I struggle to see how they think they can win. I wonder if they will go ahead?
Also the prosecusion in Scotland?

Allison Bailey's case must look even stronger

I am absolutely over the moon. This means all those big lawyer companies will have to re-think their alleigance (in the UK at least) to SW.

I am sad to see this demise, but I count women's rights as my priority and the growing hatred against women, fuelled by TRA's has made me unconcerned right now about anyone else's rights. Stealth and closing down debate was never going to be a good look (also legal giggery pokery - love that)

btw I wonder if the Fox killers case against LGB Alliance is going to go forward?

Hopefully we can now go back to having policies which guard against locking vulnerable female victims of male abuse, who have committed non-violent poverty crimes, up with male rapists.

And stop police forces recording rapists and other male perpetrators as women if they say they are one, and forcing female prisoners officers to partake in males' sexual fetishes and displays of sexual dominance during body searches.

Incredible that we ever ended up here. But here we are. Glad some sense is starting to seep back in. Wonder when MNHQ will catch up, as they seem to be going in the opposite direction.

So does that mean they'll stop putting men in women's prisons then?

Fantastic news

does little victory dance