Best responses for being asked for pronouns in person

Do any non English speaking countries do this?

If you see a woman in jeans and short hair you assume it's a woman in jeans and short hair

Especially IRL people are very good at getting sex correct even when people try to. Hide it never mind if they are not

"My name" that would be my answer

With Stonewall out in some places we might see a reversal of this in the same way.

Well that's you but I work with a lot of people who are not fluent in English and having to remember different pronouns does make it harder for them. And also lots of neurodiverse people find it hard when people use pronouns that don't match their sex. And there is a lot of research that shows that women are treated more harshly in environments where there are reminders of biological sex (such as pronouns). You may not choose to believe it that's up to you - but don't assume that because you are ok with pronouns they are fine for everyone with no negative consequences

[quote Chrysanthemum5]@LurcherLot pronouns are just grammar if you let people pick which ones they use, it's compelled speech if someone control how you refer to them when they are not even present. Also it's a barrier for people who aren't comfortable in English. It's a barrier for neurodiverse people. And research shows use of pronouns makes a more hostile working environment for women. So this pronoun announcement is not harmless in any way [/quote]
I am neurodiverse, I don't struggle with pronouns, nor does any other neurodivsrse person I know, nor does any ESL speaker I know. Pronouns are a basic part of speaking English, if you struggle with them, then it's unlikely that your English skills are good enough to function in an English-speaking workplace. I suspect you are making up concerns on behalf of groups you don't actually have any business speaking for.

Can you cite this research which proves that stating pronouns in meetings is hostile to women? This doesn't seem to make sense since, as others have pointed out, most of the time women are easy to identify as such even if they don't share their pronouns.

“Wonder Woman or Super Man. You chose”

The pronouns stuff is just unnecessary. One of my colleagues has come out as trans aba chosen an obviously female name and female dress. Once introduced as ‘Gemma’, the pronouns are obvious. I make Gemma comfortable by using her new name.

If you believe in stating pronouns to show you are an ‘ally’, do you also wear a headscarf to make your muslim colleagues more comfortable?

What harm does it do? I find the implication that I identify with a certain gender identity offensive. I am a woman and a feminist. I do not identify with any gender because gender is harmful and oppressive. I do not have preferred pronouns because they suggest I support the concept that gender is innate. Everyone in the world is non-binary, in the sense that none have male or female personalities. If I declare my pronouns I am supporting something I believe is harmful, particularly to women and girls who are being forced back into the 'girl' box.

“ You've used pronouns in virtually every sentence of your response to me. I've used 5 pronouns so far in this comment.”

Neither of you needed to check pronouns before constructing your sentences.
So why is it necessary to state pronouns?
A fairy does not die every time someone used “he” instead of “she”.

@LurcherLot pronouns are just grammar if you let people pick which ones they use, it's compelled speech if someone control how you refer to them when they are not even present. Also it's a barrier for people who aren't comfortable in English. It's a barrier for neurodiverse people. And research shows use of pronouns makes a more hostile working environment for women. So this pronoun announcement is not harmless in any way

I'm confused now. A minute ago Lurcher said pronouns are just grammar (when people intimated that they don't want to be compelled to replace those which are grammatically correct).

However, others using the grammatically correct pronouns are now something people shouldn't have to put up with.

Some very good points made outside of it feeling like compelled participation in an ideological profession. Thus making many feel very uncomfortable.

1. Extra difficulty for people who are not fluent.
2. Is not inclusive of neurologically diverse people who take things literally.
3. Fronting and drawing attention to pronouns may disadvantage women, however they identify.

all it's about is making introductions a little bit smoother for people who often don't find they go smoothly

The exact opposite has occurred. Now, introductions are incredibly awkward and tense.

My pronouns are fuck/off.

You’re telling people they don’t care enough about discomfort or will be called thingy. When neither is true.

You’ll just have to accept your discomfort doesn’t trump other people’s. And not go on about not having compassion.

Marsha, no one in this thread is trying to force it, no one at any meeting I've ever been to where people were asked to share pronouns has forced it, there's no evidence this event of OP's is going to force it. You seem to be fighting a straw man.

Actually I find the pronoun thing quite offensive

I don't like to be reminded that I am female
I don't see myself as any different to the men in the room
I have never been offended by being referred to as a male which often happens with people from different countries before I meet them irl

Yet denying my femaleness seems also wrong. It's factual
If I deny my femaleness must I give up all sex based rights even though I will still face sex based discrimination?

You don't seem able to look past your own experience and have any empathy or compassion for anyone else's

Then again those that want to force it aren’t trying very hard to understand that it makes some people uncomfortable doing so.

Id say "i don't understand the question"

[quote Bazoo23]@LurcherLot why would people be confused what to call her?

We've reached 2021 without being permanently mystified about how to refer to people[/quote]
No, actually, we've reached 2021 with quite a few people having to either always correct people or having to put up with others getting it wrong. Again, just because it's not something you've experienced personally, doesn't mean it doesn't happen to others.

And that's kind of the point actually - this thread is clearly full of people who can't imagine their pronouns being anything but totally obvious, and scoffing with laughter at the very idea that some people might actually find they frequently need to specify or correct people. You don't seem able to look past your own experience and have any empathy or compassion for anyone else's. Some of you seem downright offended by the suggestion that you could consider any experience but your own. Some of you are suggesting responses for OP which I hope for her own sake she will ignore because they'd make her sound downright rude, hostile or ignorant in front of her colleagues.

And again, I'm not just talking about trans people, other people who are GNC in presentation or who have certain physical characteristics which get read wrongly also find themselves in the same boat.

As I've said before if you don't want to state your pronouns, don't. It's unlikely to be a big deal, highly unlikely anyone will make you or care (as long as you don't make it a big deal by making a memorably stupid remark). But it's ridiculous to make out pronouns are some kind of ideological bogeyman - all it's about is making introductions a little bit smoother for people who often don't find they go smoothly.

As you say, pronouns aren't gender ideology. Like all ideologies and religions, adherents can come together to practice and profess their ideological beliefs. Not expect the time of non adherents in everyday life to be wasted on something that is not objective fact or mainstream.