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Ofsted have left Stonewall

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PatsArrow · 05/06/2021 07:33

Apologies, I don't have a Telegraph subscription so can't read the full article but the bones of it from Twitter are that Ofsted have LEFT Stonewall.

Hopefully this is the beginning on the end of the gender ideology in our schools.

twitter.com/ripx4nutmeg/status/1401058196127686658?s=21

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SirSamuelVimes · 06/06/2021 09:42

I used to love pride - when it was about the LGB. Now it's just as much about straight men with a puppy/rubber fetish who want to display this fetish around children.... Not so much.

I wholeheartedly support LGB people. Thank god for the arrival of the LGB Alliance - hopefully they will rise as Stonewall fall.

EastWestWhosBest · 06/06/2021 08:55

I quite agree Cheshire.

LGB people need support and T is muddying the waters.

CheshireSplat · 06/06/2021 07:14

@bitheby

Finding some of these replies alarming. There is nothing wrong with supporting Pride month by showing solidarity with minority groups. A lot of the women on the FWR boards are lesbian or bisexual and we still face prejudice and discrimination for that and education and awareness raising in schools is what we all fought for back in the day.

I don't think not wearing a rainbow is sticking it to the man of Stonewall. It's failing to support those kids in schools who are LGB, might grow up to be trans, have LGBT parents or family members. All of this still need to happen. Stonewall rightfully deserve the bad publicity they're getting but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger.

I second this. This gender discussion is important, but the subtleties being discussed here are way in advance of typical discussions that go on more widely, where homophobia still exists, where half of the parents in DD2's class were upset about the recent sex ed lesson they had.

I will be celebrating Pride and showing my support for gay colleagues and friends and gay people I don't know. Let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater, there are an awful lot of bigoted people out there still.

Nonmaquillee · 06/06/2021 06:51

@Tanith

Schools and providers are under immense pressure to gain Good or Outstanding grades. The fact that OFSTED was a Diversity Champion will have had a very strong influence. No wonder schools have been pushing so hard with Stonewall's agenda.

That any organisation should seek to interfere with inspections in this way is appalling. It should never have been allowed to happen. It's compromised the impartiality of OFSTED.
Are there any other lobby groups exerting this kind of influence?

I totally agree with you. It’s unacceptable that Ofsted were part of this.
MsFogi · 05/06/2021 23:39

Good news, we need the tide to continue to turn on Stonewall membership and hopefully a by-product will be ditching ridiculous pronouns in email signatures/LinkedIn bios.

Tanith · 05/06/2021 22:19

Schools and providers are under immense pressure to gain Good or Outstanding grades.
The fact that OFSTED was a Diversity Champion will have had a very strong influence. No wonder schools have been pushing so hard with Stonewall's agenda.

That any organisation should seek to interfere with inspections in this way is appalling. It should never have been allowed to happen. It's compromised the impartiality of OFSTED.
Are there any other lobby groups exerting this kind of influence?

FannyCann · 05/06/2021 22:17

That is very grim SmokedDuck

HeavenHotel · 05/06/2021 22:03

Wonderful wonderful news!! The house of cards is toppling.

snowcobra · 05/06/2021 22:00

This is wonderful news. It seems the tide is finally turning

Paralithic · 05/06/2021 21:47

So Ofsted has done a 180° appraisal on Stonewall and found them “inadequate”?

Yippee.

SmokedDuck · 05/06/2021 21:39

@FannyCann

FF. A whole season. Though I get it with respect to supermarkets etc that support Pride. They can bedeck their halls with rainbows all summer until it's time to take it all down and replace it with Christmas decorations. Envy
It's flipping awful. The rainbows aren't so bad, though the advertisements all summer are annoying. But the worst is the CBC feels the need to include Pride related content all summer on the radio, so every show is full of stories in some way related. It's way over the top.

I just long for a stories that don't mention anyone's identity characteristics.

BoreOfWhabylon · 05/06/2021 21:26

Brick by brick...

MrsOvertonsWindow · 05/06/2021 21:18

Great to see the MoJ abandoning ship. Unfortunately there are some other influential trans lobby groups who have managed to persuade officials that male born sex offenders must have access to women in prison for validation purposes. These groups need to be weeded out asap.

Xenia · 05/06/2021 21:04

Very good. There is no need for 5 year olds to be asked about trans issues during an Ofsted inspection. You go to school to learn maths and English etc

napody · 05/06/2021 20:58

@KittyValentine

It went on to ask if primary schools would be marked as “requires improvement” or “inadequate” – the lowest grades in Ofsted inspections – if children were not made aware of “specifically, sexual orientation and gender reassignment”.

Fuck, Stonewall have some damn cheek!

Yes! The absolute definition of overreach. Backfired beautifully.
MarshaBradyo · 05/06/2021 20:57

It’s great news, I’m so pleased the tide is turning

I wonder what the conversations are like there

FannyCann · 05/06/2021 20:55

FF. A whole season. Though I get it with respect to supermarkets etc that support Pride. They can bedeck their halls with rainbows all summer until it's time to take it all down and replace it with Christmas decorations. Envy

AlfonsoTheMango · 05/06/2021 20:19

Flippin' heck. A whole ruddy season?

ScreamingMeMe · 05/06/2021 20:17

@andyoldlabour

Bitheby

"but don't damage the rest of us in the process of expressing your righteous anger."

That sounds a bit hysterical to be honest, a bit like people who say failure to do everything they want is "literal violence". It is very narcissistic behaviour.
As for "pride month", which other group of people want one twelth of the year devoting to them.
Maybe I should demand that there be an "Andy month"?

In Canada it's now a whole season.

twitter.com/freetobeme_ca/status/1400162933720719360?s=20

Ofsted have left Stonewall
RedDogsBeg · 05/06/2021 20:07

[quote MaudTheInvincible]MoJ reported to have left Stonewall now archive.ph/3dCjg[/quote]
About time.

Freespeecher · 05/06/2021 20:06

Today's Times says Channel 4 have quit the Stonewall scheme too.

If the likes of Channel 4 are pulling out then Stonewall really are in trouble.

AfternoonToffee · 05/06/2021 20:04

As for "pride month", which other group of people want one twelth of the year devoting to them.

Yes, a week tends to be the norm, so recently we have had Dementia Awareness Week, Mental Health Week, Volunteers Week. The charities might do a thing the whole month for members (if associated charitable organisations) but the focus is on a week.

Did Sainsbury's (for example) do anything for Dementia Awareness Week or is it just easier to change their logo to a rainbow colouring for a month?

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 05/06/2021 20:04

Is this about to become a rout?

AfternoonToffee · 05/06/2021 19:59

The conference organizers may need a rethink. Shock

westminsterinsight.com/event/3614/LGBT__at_Work_Digital_Conference

MaudTheInvincible · 05/06/2021 19:50

MoJ reported to have left Stonewall now archive.ph/3dCjg

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