Ofsted have left Stonewall

Women's rights have always come below a lot of other rights like trans rights, racism etc. We are bottom of the pile.

Wow - I didn't realise that John Lewis and Waitrose are so anti-female!

This seems strange and lacking consideration of those who actually shop with them (or used to).

Disappointing from John Lewis …

This is even better than the Beeb dropping Mermaids last summer. And shortly ahead of the Bell case, was that a coincidence?

I too am at a loss to understand how grown adults dressing up as Rod, Jane and Freddy (not that Freddy, incidentally) is doing anything to support LGB people. I was ardently pro gay marriage and wholeheartedly supported equality of rights regardless of who people sleep with. But as a 'B' I've always been the invisible letter in Stonewall's umbrella, anyway.

They are a divisive, toxic organisation and one I'd never support. And I never thought I'd be tempted to go outside and perform my happy dance on learning the news that they've been dropped by OfSted and the MOJ. They started off doing good things. It's unfortunate.

Our priority has always been and always will be to ensure all of our Partners and customers feel safe and secure working and shopping with us.

Except for women. JL don't appear to be at all interested in ensuring women feel safe and secure working and shopping with them, judging by that mealy mouthed response. What a shame; I quite liked John Lewis.

Take care, and have a pleasant evening.

Is that the new "Go well"?

Contemptuous and contemptible.

Contempt for women is right
I have had a long relationship with JL and Waitrose but it’s over

I was in JL at the weekend. The fitting rooms are just called 'fitting rooms'. No men's or women's.
I had a good old check for hidden camera. You would think they would be desperate for their female customers to be back in store trying on clothes & buying them. What's our alternative- ASOS not JL. JL you lose. If you don't listen to your customers then you will lose them and close down. Please listen

Hahaha that’s a pathetic response from John Lewis. I’m sure he’ll be able to tell a exactly what policies they have in place to ensure women feel safe.

Honestly the contempt these companies have for women is unbelievable

Reply from John Lewis:

“Thanks for your email.

Equality is a founding principle of the John Lewis Partnership, which was formed almost 100 years ago. We regularly review our participation in schemes run by various external organisations to make sure they continue to align with the values of the John Lewis Partnership and support the aims of our five-year Partnership Plan.

Stonewall is no different. Our priority has always been and always will be to ensure all of our Partners and customers feel safe and secure working and shopping with us. We also have our own policies and procedures in place to ensure this.

Thanks again for writing to us. Take care, and have a pleasant evening.

Kind regards,

Iain Stewart
Partner & Director Relations Case Manager
John Lewis & Partners”

Yes, @PearPickingPorky I’m going to start ordering my groceries from elsewhere and I’ll stop using JL too. They can FTFO frankly, my cash is going elsewhere.

Obfuscation really, it is a meaningless reply.

I’ve had a reply from Waitrose:

“Thanks for taking the time to get in touch.

We regularly review our participation in schemes run by various external organisations to make sure they continue to align with the values of the John Lewis Partnership and support the aims of our five-year Partnership Plan.

Stonewall would be no different. Our priority has always been and always will be to ensure all of our Partners and customers feel safe and secure working and shopping with us. We also have our own policies and procedures in place to ensure this.

Thanks again for your email.

Take care.”

Schools need to keep Gendered Intelligence out too, imo. Gendered Intelligence are behind a lot of Stonewall's 'losing its way'.

MoJ leaving, confirmed in the Times this morning.

Good, this organisation is aggressive and political. It has no place in employers business and certainly not in schools where they are hell bent into pushing their warped ideology onto children. They are dangerous and need to be stopped. Now that Ofsted have left, let’s hope schools follow suit, I shall certainly be asking our school why they are championing them now.

andy I may be wrong, but I suspect it was because of the word beginning with n that has links to a Hunter in Greek mythology

ScreamingMeMe

I have had my comment which you quoted at 20:17 yesterday deleted and I have no idea why.
I have no idea what the rules are anymore on this forum.
Your point was great, I totally agreed with it.

Smoked, I put on the Archers today on the radio and the first item was like an eco party political broadcast so I fast forwarded and then got into a gay discussion. Obviously these issues are important and I know the Archers was originally devised as partly state propaganda and to encourage farmers to follow the state's party line on issues relating to farms but these political messages in fiction can make things you only put on to relax hard to watch, as if you have been transported to North Korea for a political indoctrination sessions.

I think you'll find that support for lesbians has increased because of Stonewalls fight against women's rights. A big supporter of Stonewall here but not of their actions since the T became their star cause. I think the superstraight on reddit really did stir things up as it highlighted the plight of lesbians

Once the dust has settled, hopefully things will have moved forward and if they don't you'll have people like me causing a bit of a stink. Women's rights first please

I wonder whether schools that have wholeheartedly embraced Stonewall's version of inclusion and safeguarding are now going to reexamine their position?

There are primary schools reported to have been complicit in the social transitioning of young children. These children may well have very strong feelings about the cul de sac they find themselves in as they move to senior school and have no prospect of puberty blockers - that may have previously appeared guaranteed - due to recent legal cases. These schools may now be looking at their approach through a fresh lens if Ofsted is no longer toeing Stonewall's line. There are so so many adults and agencies who need to understand how they have failed their responsibilities.

I think there has been a re-writing of history to suggest that homosexual people have experience discrimination because they are gender non conforming when in reality gender non conformity is feared to the extent that it signifies homosexuality.