Are you put off booking a holiday in Scotland by the Marion Miller case and the Scottish police carping about stickers?

www.scotsman.com/news/people/kirkcaldy-police-face-social-media-backlash-after-deleting-tweet-investigating-stickers-which-read-women-wont-wheesht-3247035

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/great-niece-of-snp-founder-reveals-she-chalked-womens-rights-message-at-government-hq-3173201

The recent row at Abertay University because a student said that women have vaginas and the many Scottish Universities mentioned on here - www.gcacademianetwork.org/

It may well not affect the average woman holidaying in Scotland but its naive to say that there's not some very worrying incursions against women's rights.

Someone mentioned Nicola Sturgeon - did she ever make a public statement condemning the corrective rape threats made against Joanna Cherry by a member of the SNP?

Scot living in England. Always thought we’d return at some point.
No chance while SNP in power.
Ardent SNP supporters are among some of the most judgemental, narrow minded, lacking in intellectual curiosity people that I’ve ever encountered.
I find the narrative projected by the SNP that Scotland is an open, progressive, tolerant society pretty terrifying when Marion’s case along with others suggests that Scotland is increasingly the exact opposite.

Shhh, don't mention Craig Murray. Or the recent resignations.

Everything is wonderful in sunny Scotland!

I live in Scotland too, and have spent the day tweeting madly about Marion Millar. Even then I'm struggling to see what effect her case has on someone from England who fancies a long weekend in Edinburgh.

Actually I’m wrong there, another man was convicted for naming complainants on Twitter. He got 6 months. Murray’s sentence for hinting is 8 months.

I bet Marion Millar thought she was safe until a couple of weeks ago.

Yes, we're just a bunch of hysterical women. Plus ca change.

Paranoid? Marion Millar is facing court next month. Calling the police to out oneself as a feminist would be enormously foolhardy.

I’ve just looked at a group I want to join . The criteria states ‘open to those who identify as women or are non binary’. I won’t be joining it. The world has gone crazy.

Appalled at what's happening. DH works at
an Edinburgh University - nobody is speaking out, least of all women, in fear for their jobs. What has happened to Marion Millar beggars belief. TRAs can post death threats, abuse, yet nothing is done. Where are the SNP in all this, or the self proclaimed lifelong feminist. Nicola Sturgeon?

Shedbuilder this is so worrying, my dd is thinking of applying to Edinburgh.

The images were reported to the person's university (Brunel) who responded very quickly with a 'trans rights are human rights' statement. Facing a horrified response from the general public that violent threats against women (in particular Scottish women, given the hashtag) were essentially being endorsed by the University they then apologised and reported the student to the Police. However, their initial response was very telling.

I've looked at the hashtag and saw the pictures you are talking about and they should be reported to someone, and probably also to the institution where this person is studying for their PHD.

I'm Scottish and am horrified by what's going on. It's surprising how little other people seem to care as generally doesn't effect them day to day.

There's no way I'd vote for independence as at least the HoL seems to have some adults with common sense in it.

Shedbuilder

The situation is the same in many English universities too. I spoke to an academic a couple of years ago who said their union had warned members if they were accused of transphobia they were on their own, and we now how casually that accusations is flung around. She said the atmosphere of fear among academics (mostly female, no surprise there) affected their ability to properly do their job because of the need for constant vigilance about everything they said or wrote on line.

I’m Scottish and disgusted with what is going on in Scotland. My dp is English and we are seriously considering moving down there due to the anti women sentiment. However I do worry that this is spreading rapidly and England won’t be far behind this nonsense.

Are you serious? You are scared to come on holiday to Scotland?

I'm GC and don't like a lot of what has been happening regarding arrests and the hate crime bill. It does not mean we live in a dictatorship and some of these posts are verging on hysteria.

Do you really think Nicola Sturgeon is going to change her policies because someone refuses to send their kids to a Scottish uni?

I live in Scotland. I'll holiday in Scotland, but then I don't have an issue with trans rights 🤷‍♀️
And for the poster that said they would discuss the Salmond trial and end up in jail like Craig Murray, Craig Murray did more than just talk about the Salmond trial. He blogged about it in a way that could potentially identify one of the complainers. seems to me that prosecuting him supports women's rights

I've watched with horror as my country has dismantled women's rights. My own personal turning point was elected politicians voting against traumatised rape survivors being able to request a female (I.e. female sex) examiner. It has just gotten worse and worse since then. I am truly ashamed to be Scottish. I didn't think I'd ever say that.

As an aside, we don't hate English people. It's a lazy argument to say 'all Scots hate English people'.

I loved going to Scotland but I won't return now I dont feel safe as a woman going there anymore

@Oatcakecravings -that sounds a horrible nightmare to work in .💐

I don't think this is about hating Scots or hating English etc For me ,its about a very sanctimonious government who are so desperate to be seen as woke and progressive when the reality isn't the case ,that they have lost the plot . Remember Scotland executed far more witches than England . Burnt them as well. I feel so sad and worried for the women such as Marion and Lisa. I cannot stand the SNP and the rest are hopeless . Some of the Yes campaigners were absolute numpties and I voted Yes as well. What a sad state we are in that a Tory minister has stuck up for us in England . I thought about moving to Wales but then seen that the Labour government is of the Momentum woke . Ex Labour member and voter all my life.