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New Look responds to backlash over padded bikini for young girls

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stumbledin · 02/06/2021 20:39

Cant see another thread about this, but I am so downhearted that this sexualisation of young girls is still going on.

And www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/new-look-responds-backlash-over-20723688

I think Object Now! have been tweeting about this. twitter.com/ObjectUK/status/1400040409611575296

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SmokedDuck · 02/06/2021 23:56

[quote teezletangler]Torn on this. I don't have an issue with moulding, but the bikinis themselves don't look great to me. Not appropriate for a 9 yo IMO. I do think it's a fairly sexualised style.

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Yes, I think that's the real issue.

Because of the style of the suit, the padding looks like it's intended to make the whole thing sexier. If the style was overall more appropriate I don't think it would give that impression even with similar material and structuring..

Whatwouldscullydo · 02/06/2021 23:50

I dont have a problem with moulding. I wish people would stop seeing it in the same veun as some push up bra. Truth is wgeh you are developing everything's uneven and sensitive and moulding is far more comfortable and stops you being self conscious. Puberty is hard enough without being used as some guinea pig to prove a point regarding arbitrary age limits and parents who seem to have forgotten forgotten what its like to be a little girl and sexualise even necessary underwear.

The bikini style itself I have to say doesn't look particularly practical or comfortable. As usual girls are having to pick between practicality and comfort and functionality. Would be nice to see some thought go into a bikini that had moulding but also a decent structure to stay in place that won't see shit come untied or being too tight to keep in place and would survive a wave or a dive

Bikinis and tankinis however are extremely handy for the beach and days out. The dreaded toilet trip with a swimsuit is something we all dread. Plus I don't know abiut anyone else but I've always been long in the body. I have to size up to not be cut in half lengthwise which leaves stuff baggy in areas you really don't want. Bikinis don't cut you in half and aone you can eveb mix and match so if you need a bigger top or bottom you can get it.

Ironically in this bid to not sexualise children parents would let them.wear shorts and no top because a 9 yr old girl is just like a 9 yr old boy and doesn't need a bra top... or let them just run about in underwear like children do, so covering the top half in a vest is fine but chop of a couple of inches of that vest and all hell breaks loose.

Personally I think a lined/moulded crop top style bikini top would probably be better and more comfortable i know o from experience that halterneck bra tops are a pain in the arse and I'd not inflict that on a child.

But a bit of moulding is no big deal but then I remember the humiliation of thise god awful non lined non moulded bras and I wouldn't do that to a child.

stumbledin · 02/06/2021 23:45

Astonished by some of the remarks here! Just the stupidity of a bikini if you want to swim, and if it is just for prancing around in the sun, I am not sure why girls as young as 9 should be targeted with an item of clothing that was never anything other than to sexualise women's bodies.

Interestingly on the page I have found for "girls bikinis" they do in fact sell some with really quite modest tops, that zip up, so more than suggests the moulded ones arent anything more than encouraging young girls think they need to wear ultra feminine items (as designed by men).

And as to modesty, unless you are fairly well developed it is more than likely that a bikini top will just ride up and totally expose your breasts.

And my memory of swim suits when young is that they were quite thick and tight and if anything compressed body parts, including squashing down nipples.

am now beginning to think that maybe it is mother's experiences that are influences daughters choices.

www.newlook.com/uk/search/?text=girls%20bikini&searchType=auto (I think it is the "traingle" range that the complaints are about).

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GAHgamel · 02/06/2021 23:02

I'd be more convinced by the modesty argument being put forth by New Look if the bikinis had more structure to them than they do, as they're basically all cup and a bit of string.

CorvusPurpureus · 02/06/2021 22:22

It's not a style I'd encourage - my quite water sporty dds (now 13 & 15) favour racerback swimsuits or rash vest with board shorts or tankinis. Bikinis are rubbish for actual swimming/snorkelling/water polo/bodyboarding, & if you're just pottering on the beach it's just more flesh to cover with sunscreen, which is a faff.

But if they were choosing to wear a bikini (dd2 took a liking to a lovely colourful one in Primark when she was about 9 & I cheerfully bought it for her - she wore it for one season but grumbled that it kept getting twisted on water slides), they'd want moulded cups.

Both were developing by age 9 & would have wanted some coverage of breast buds.

Suzi888 · 02/06/2021 22:18

@LibertyMole

It doesn’t really matter either way. Lots of nine year olds are developing breasts.
^ This. Anything to cover up a bit. I hated all in one suits, you can see everything. My friends parents on the other hand used to let her go completely topless - I’d have been mortified!
kowari · 02/06/2021 22:18

Not that I think there is anything wrong with a developing 9 year old wanting a moulded bikini top for modesty, but age 9 does not mean 'for 9 year olds' any more than size 4 stilettos are for 9 year olds, it's just a size!

TheFairyCaravan · 02/06/2021 22:14

I’d have loved a moulded bikini top or swimsuit when I was developing breasts. I remember being really self conscious when I went swimming, especially when the water was cold.

I never wear a bikini that doesn’t have some sort of padding in now, because I don’t want to be ogled at, so I don’t see why a young girl shouldn’t have the same choice either.

Deliriumoftheendless · 02/06/2021 22:12

I wear kids bras- the soft crop top type ones, for about a 12 year old as I am small and child size, even as an adult. They hide absolutely nothing, which doesn’t bother me as I don’t mind going braless I’m thin tops - I’m not worried if people can see my nipples, but if I was a kid wearing them I’d feel extremely self conscious, so I can see why kids want a layer of padding.

LilQueenie · 02/06/2021 22:09

The thing with new look is the kids range is for age 9 to 15 hence the name 915. Plenty kids at the younger end need some form of support of feel more confident with it therefore why not have a bikini over a swimsuit. Instead of us stating what kids think why not ask them. There is no right or wrong just how they feel about what they wear on their own bodies. There is nothing sexual about kids in bikinis. Adults make that assumption out of fear.

Ozanj · 02/06/2021 22:07

Without moulding or padding I imagine 90% of girls over the age of 8 wouldn’t swim. Women really are distructive when it comes to themselves - ffs don’t any of you remember how frustrating it was at 8/9 with ‘athletic’ swimwear that not only showed the outline of nipples but often the colour too? Girls won’t accept that any more.

kowari · 02/06/2021 22:06

I think clothing that 11-12 year olds and teens want to wear does need to be available in a couple of sizes smaller than the target age group to provide for smaller builds.

MysteriousMonkey · 02/06/2021 22:04

My nearly term daughter is developing and is all nips, I think she'd prefer moulded for modesty tbh.

kowari · 02/06/2021 22:02

I prefer moulded cups for the reasons people have mentioned, not to make them look bigger. Many 11 year old girls would need an age 9 if they have a slight build, the shop isn't making parents buy them for 9 year olds. If parents don't like teenage style clothing then they should shop elsewhere for their pre teen children.

Wandamakesporridge · 02/06/2021 21:52

DD likes moulded cups for the reasons given above - not to make her bust look bigger, but to hide her nipples (especially when coming out of a cold swimming pool), and also she found a bit of soft padding more comfortable and protective.

However she’d never wear those New Look styles as they are too skimpy - she prefers the crop top / sports style as less revealing and better for swimming in.

teezletangler · 02/06/2021 21:50

Torn on this. I don't have an issue with moulding, but the bikinis themselves don't look great to me. Not appropriate for a 9 yo IMO. I do think it's a fairly sexualised style.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-9639277/amp/New-Look-fire-sexualising-children-selling-padded-bikinis-girls-aged-nine.html

ramabanana · 02/06/2021 21:44

I certainly would have benefited from some padding to hide the obvious outline of my breasts when I was that age, I wearing bras from year 4

The camo sets on the bottom left seem to have a bit more material below and between the cups which I think is better/ more modest

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 02/06/2021 21:42

I'm torn on this one. I liked anything moulded from quite young due to huge nips and breast size differences. I'm not sure this is sexualisation. I just wanted to hide the nipples and the fact one boob was clearly 2 sizes smaller.

LibertyMole · 02/06/2021 21:42

Adults wear moulded cups for the same reason, because for the last twenty years we’ve decided for reasons unknown that the outline of a nipple is not acceptable.

Being self conscious about the shape of your developing breasts doesn’t mean you are self conscious about the shape of your whole body and want to cover it all up.

Soontobe60 · 02/06/2021 21:32

I don’t get people who say they’d prefer to wear this type of bikini as they were self conscious about their breasts. Someone who’s body conscious would surely prefer to wear a full swimsuit and even a t shirt over it to hide their bodies? I know when I was a child I’d never have worn a bikini! My girls both wore board shorts and cropped (ie substantial) bikini tops once they started to develop breasts.

I can almost guarantee that the manufacturers of these bikinis didn’t think - I know, I’ll design a bikini that self conscious girls can wear to cover up in then come up with this adult design.

Mumoftwo1990 · 02/06/2021 21:32

[quote stumbledin]Cant see another thread about this, but I am so downhearted that this sexualisation of young girls is still going on.

And www.chroniclelive.co.uk/whats-on/shopping/new-look-responds-backlash-over-20723688

I think Object Now! have been tweeting about this. twitter.com/ObjectUK/status/1400040409611575296[/quote]
Moulded I have no problem with, padding I do.
I do remember being so paranoid when my nipples would show through, so a thicker bikini top I am fine with.

randomsabreuse · 02/06/2021 21:31

Can't see any pictures so no direct comment but I have no objection to "moulded" cups being more comfortable for sensitive growing breast buds, plus hiding any unequal sizes etc. It's not necessarily to make them bigger, can give a smoother line. I'd quite like the option of a padded/moulded cup as a 28KK and I definitely don't need by boobs to look bigger.

Also age 9 could easily fit an 11/12 year old who is fairly narrow across the back, is quite likely to have growing boobs and might well find a 2 piece more convenient for a day at the pool/beach. Especially for getting changed in limited facilities!

LuckyWookie · 02/06/2021 21:22

In my early teens I also preferred moulded foam cups for modesty reasons. I felt self conscious about my breast buds and moulded cups concealed the shape and size. So I don’t think this is an issue tbh. The fact it’s a bikini and not a one-piece is more of an issue imo.

TheWeeDonkey · 02/06/2021 21:13

For me personally I choose to wear moulded cup bras and swimwear because im conscious of my boobs, it put me off swimming when I was younger which is a shame because its something I enjoy. If they were available when I was younger I would have felt more comfortable in them.