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Who do you Truss more?

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OhHolyJesus · 01/06/2021 15:03

A deliberate Freudian slip in the title - a Twitter poll for those on the hell site.

Who do you trust more - Stonewall or Liz Truss.

A weird premise, comparing a government minister and a charity who consider themselves to be ruling the U.K. government but there you go...

twitter.com/dawnbutlerbrent/status/1399708211838607362?s=21

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WarOnWomen · 03/06/2021 16:50

Just seen there's been some awful trolls on my timeline.

Yes, just over 30% were trolls.

DialSquare · 03/06/2021 09:03

All the idiots backing her up and calling her queen will be the same people scratching their heads as to why Labour won't be in power any time soon.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/06/2021 08:58

Just seen there's been some awful trolls on my timeline.

Someone among the mostly sycophantic responses pointed out that answering a question she'd posed isn't actually 'trolling'.

What I find interesting is how massively she misjudged this - she honestly must have thought that the result would have been overwhelmingly pro Stonewall, versus a Conservative (sorry, always 'Tory') minister. It was her Twitter, presumably likely to be seen primarily by her followers.... I suppose people do 'follow' politicians they don't support.

I wonder what results the same poll would result in on MN?

Cailleach1 · 03/06/2021 08:53

Like in her interview, when she said transwomen are women. Imagine if you were raped by a male and she said that was a woman, silly.

Cailleach1 · 03/06/2021 08:51

Is she a decent constituency MP?

Being a woman, I wouldn't trust her an inch. Or many other MP's. Don't know if she would represent woman without trumping men's wishes over them.

What if you went to her and told her that there were vulnerable women in refuges in her Constituency who were being traumatised by the presence of males in their midst?

PronounssheRa · 03/06/2021 07:37

@MaudTheInvincible

She's displaying Trumpian levels of public discourse there. I'd laugh, but then I think of how unelectable all this makes Labour.
It's depressing.

Dawn might be a decent constituency MP, but her refusal to engage with the issues and instead dismiss people who disagree with her as trolls makes her look like a teenager.

She will never engage on this issue in good faith

MaudTheInvincible · 03/06/2021 07:23

She's displaying Trumpian levels of public discourse there. I'd laugh, but then I think of how unelectable all this makes Labour.

JellySlice · 03/06/2021 07:15

Those replies! Are they for real? Is that what being a politician is all about - looking good and having a lovely smile?

Novelusername · 02/06/2021 23:40

Well, this is how Dawn has chosen to respond to around 63,000 people voting against her in her poll:

"Hey.... I've had such a lovely day.

Just seen there's been some awful trolls on my timeline. So here's my response."

twitter.com/DawnButlerBrent/status/1400174729173123073

Yep, all 63,000 voters were just trolls. F*ckin hopeless!

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 02/06/2021 22:17

@TheGoogleMum

I'm one of the Labour supporters that voted for Liz. Why isn't there a uk left wing party that understands what a woman is? I'd join that instead in a heartbeat.
Have a look at William Clouston's Social Democrat Party.

sdp.org.uk/

newnortherner111 · 02/06/2021 21:16

I expect the Piers Morgan interview with Keir Starmer was recorded before all this. A pity that Piers Morgan could not have challenged Keir Starmer over this.

TheGoogleMum · 02/06/2021 21:11

I'm one of the Labour supporters that voted for Liz.
Why isn't there a uk left wing party that understands what a woman is? I'd join that instead in a heartbeat.

BraveBananaBadge · 02/06/2021 19:56

I was amused last night, today the realisation hit me, i don't think Labour are capable of change

Pretty much this. I voted for them in the local elections in a bit of a last chance saloon situation. If this silly shit show had happened before it would have been the final nail in the coffin and I wouldn't even be sorry. Where are the grown ups in the Labour Party?

Thelnebriati · 02/06/2021 17:02

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 02/06/2021 16:03

I've enjoyed watching this. Just sad that she'll never get it - too many special awards, too much face to lose.

Tibtom · 02/06/2021 15:18

And let us remember that she has 150k followers meaning those voting for a conservative minister should include a large number if labour supporters.

RedDogsBeg · 02/06/2021 14:32

I don't see any need for any company, publicly funded body or organisation to sign up to Stonewall's Champion Scheme nor to outsource their equality duties to them - it's pretty fucking easy NOT to discriminate against people in work and the EqA is hardly a difficult document to understand.

SpindleWhorl · 02/06/2021 14:32

Well, the Dawn Butler Poll is now firmly embedded in twitty folk legend, so there is that I suppose.

OhHolyJesus · 02/06/2021 14:27

At the very least this will have made quite a few people chuckle, so thanks for the laughs Dawn.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/06/2021 14:22

I'm not sure she's even got that get out. The poll must have run for about 24 hours. Time for everybody to vote, if they'd been so minded.

Thelnebriati · 02/06/2021 14:19

So let this be a lesson. If you time your poll to end before your supporters wake up en masse and vote the way you wanted, you probably need to up your politics game.

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PigeonPants · 02/06/2021 14:14

If I were Liz Truss, I'd be sorely tempted to clip those poll results and set them as my Twitter banner.

(And then, I'd probably not actually do it, not being a mental and emotional ten-year-old - which unfortunately seems to be a rare quality in UK politics right now.)

highame · 02/06/2021 13:58

Dawn has been pretty quiet, do we know the reason for that? 😂😂😂

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/06/2021 13:46

Poll closed now.

Dawn Butler MPRaised fistBlue heart
@DawnButlerBrent
Who do you trust more?
Stonewall
30.5%
Liz Truss
69.5%
90,483 votes
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Final results
1:43 pm · 1 Jun 2021·Twitter for Android

Novelusername · 02/06/2021 13:39

Despite the Labour party being f*cked, this has restored my faith somewhat. Over 90,000 votes and 70% in favour of Liz Truss. I know it's only a Twitter poll, but still.