Ace, Bi and Pan grown ups you see - Blues Clues, Nickelodeon Junior, Lindz Amer children's video ages 2-5 yrs

My 8yo asked me recently how single mothers had babies. That was an interesting discussion (about what sex is, adults enjoying it etc... She has a cousin whose parents were never a couple, and her uncles wife is pregnant, not a completely random question!) It was confusing enough at 8yo. The bit about women marrying women and men marrying men was easy as toddlers. Sex doesn't come into it then, just loving each other.

Grown ups can do what they like as long as it's consentual. Leave small children out of it.

I’ve spoken to my DS, 8, about people being bi. But in the same way he thinks about people being straight or gay, we talk in terms of ‘falling in love’ because sexual attraction is a concept he’s still too young to understand. He knows certain things about sex but in terms of reproduction not about attraction, desire, potential emotional consequences etc. Tbh, I just use the word bi and explained it means 2, instead of using the full word bisexual.

And he being a child actually thinks being bi sounds the best as he can marry his best friend and a girl, so he’ll choose that one.

This is really sinister. The words "pan," "queer," "omni," and "bisexual" have no place in programming for toddlers.

Annie yes that really needs pointing out too.

Agree with everything said here. And to add: teaching children a slur - "queer" - that they are too young to understand is indefensible.

FFS the "all families are different" bit is enough.

Number 7 - all families are made differently. The end, that's all children that age group need to know and be accepting of. This is absolute BS.

I say this as I stand up for drag on here a bit and I've liked what I've seen of Nina West before. She's a Drag Race contestant in a comedy style - doesn't go in for sex or smut. Very funny and good natured and I knew she did kids comedy and songs. But this is stupid, confusing and indefensible.

The top and tail with Blues Clues - do they even know what they're sticking their graphics over? It kind of seemed they didn't.

FWIW I was mildly surprised how conflicted I was when drag race story time etc started to catch on in my area, because my first thought as a mum was I'll pass thanks - I actually wondered if people would think I was being funny not being into it, seeing as I'd go to drag shows myself.

Yeah I'm getting it now. Best to listen to those alarm bells...

Yes Zandathepanda. Such an irony that Rolf Harris made some of the first safeguarding programmes aimed at children. It's a good warning about how often the most unsuitable / dangerous adults find opportunities to get close to children and why safeguarding means prioritising children's safety - not the demands of adults - no matter who they say they are.

I remember singing along to Rolf Harris’ ‘My body’s nobody’s body but mine’ at primary school - had the video and worksheets.
Catchy tune but v inappropriate now.

Ok, when my mum explained that some people are gay to me it was in the sense of some men loving other men and some women loving other women. It wasn't in sexual terms because I didn't need to know about all that. But when you teach your kids about asexuality (being ace), it has to be couched in sexual terms, right? That's just not appropriate for toddlers. Nothing wrong with BEING asexual, nothing wrong with teaching, say, teens about asexuality, but I just feel you can't explain it to kids without also explaining sexual desire and that seems a bit...iffy?

I first saw Lindsay Amer on a Kiwi Farms thread years ago. Her sexualization of children is creepy and uncalled for.

She has an interesting body of work, to put it mildly.

I've just watched it and there's really nothing aside from the first two things about some families having two mummies or two daddies thats even been put in terms children can understand? It really is just feeding them words. I am bisexual btw but I don't feel preschool children need to understand it as a concept.

Any and every political and religious group you can name has always aimed to get to the children while they are young enough for total indoctrination.

This is a safeguarding issue in schools and the DfE guidance is there for all to see.

In school, the buckk stops with the Headteacher; no palming things off as Y6 teacher(s) doing their own thing! The head's actual job involves knowing in advance and monitoring what's going on. No excuses.

Governors, Local Authority or Academy chain CEO, Ofsted/Estyn and ultimately the DfE is the logical path for sorting this

There's absolutely nothing in those videos that really just wouldn't be covered by a bullying policy. There is absolutely no need to confuse children like this. Nor be so invested in their sexuality.

Apart from anything else they have their whole lives to hook up settle down and have a family etc childhood should be playing and doing their school work and spending time with friends/family.

I'd also like to see the videos aimed at the elderly for use at nursing homes. Where are they.

All in the same of a tiny, very vocal minority.

Getting children to sing happily about concepts they're far too young to understand feels inappropriate

FFS when will the madness stop?

Stop the world I want to get off.