Organisations Leaving Stonewall: The List

I noticed the National Lottery Community Fund on the stonewall champions list. Am I right in thinking they are immune from FOI?

And also that they have allocated considerable funding to mermaids and ?to stonewall?

Anyway I'm sending them a SexMatters #LeaveStonewall letter tomorrow.

Brilliant list, thanks @WarriorN very useful.

Btw, slightly off tangent, I've just come across this very useful collation of info on stonewall in recent years via various articles and situations

www.peaktrans.org/stonewall/?fbclid=IwAR0F7f5aXE-tmw1QZUZYcUN1R-vnsT74QR5XosRrgoHHw-0hzRqwQeE6u5c

Yes, the number of errors in Stonewall comms give the impression that individuals are just bashing this stuff out and no second or third set of eyes is actually reading it.

They really should have proof-read that.

Out of interest, at what point will Stonewall have to ditch the whole scheme because it's lost so much prestige?

Will they grimly cling on to the last few payments or make a strategic withdrawal and try a new funding source?

The equal treatment bench book, for guidance in Courts, also needs to be reviewed.....we can not submit to a woman having to refer to the man who raped her, as ‘she’

Really no female pronouns should be used in a court of law to anyone who is male.

My eyes are on stalks reading those quotations from the MOJ 😳 that is one sick burn.

1400 pages of documentation, though. It’s absurd. I am willing to bet that the 1400 page submission was read one time or less. Then popped in a (virtual) drawer and never seen again.

Great news about the MoJ. Love their statements. Feels as if people have been pissed off with Stonewall for a long time and are enjoying this moment.

Reading Maya's article
thecritic.co.uk/stonewalls-ratner-moment/

made me think about how the advertising industry works to create new sub-sets of the population and new problems that no one knew existed until a product was developed for it. This is what Stonewall's doing, isn't it? Identifying and creating a demi-sexual category (as someone said upthread, demi-sexuality used to be the norm) and then developing — what? Regulations requiring....what?

Can't help feeling that what they've done with regard to the T has been absolutely tragic for the transexuals just quietly trying to live their lives. In commercialising trans, they're going to end up doing massive damage all round.

Where is Ruth Hunt? Is she in hiding?

It’s a relief that things are moving but I agree we should be on our guard.

I also think the public enquiry can’t happen soon enough.

I'm a little bit apprehensive that some media dominating event will appear to distract attention.

I saw an exchange the other day which feels on point:

"A black woman queuing to vote in S Africa's 1st free election who, on being told by John Humphreys on BBCr4 today of a bombing in Jo'burg, said "The dying snake always wriggles", which great image Mr H repeated"

Wow!

Absolutely fantastic news.

This is the trickle becoming a deluge.

Stonewall are toast.

The responses to Michael Cashman's complaints about this are a joy but he did offer up a barn door for them:

When faced with bullying and intimidation one must stand one’s ground and hold firm to one’s principles. All organisations must do the same.
Bullying, intimidation, misrepresentation and inequality must never succeed.

twitter.com/mcashmanCBE/status/1401234062950473730

There is no way we are stepping back now, the pressure is on, keep 'em coming....

In the words of a proud gay musical legend...

"Don't stop me now, I'm having such a good time, I'm having a ball."

Exactly @AfternoonToffee it's a joy to see the actual reasons rather than 'money saving'

This is fantastic news. Where MoJ leads, hopefully other parts of the judicial system will follow. KeepPrisonsSingleSex is right, though - we need to keep the pressure up to make sure that happens.

And the reasons have gone from "budget constraints" to "they are just a bit rubbish." *

*Paraphrasing of course.

Is there anything we can do to help make this happen?

The sessions involve prison and probation staff closing their eyes to imagine walking through a park where they come across different people, after which they are challenged to say if everyone they “saw” was white, able-bodied or in a heterosexual relationship.

They wouldn't have got very far with my Mum and she can't see pictures in her head.

Delighted that the MoJ are leaving Stonewall.

But this is not the end.

An urgent review of all policies re transgender prisoners is required including those relating to allocation, data collection, risk assessment and security categorisation. The policy on searching is currently under review and it is imperative that the existing rights of female offenders to only be strip searched by officers of the same sex is not removed. This is on the table as an option.

MoJ needs to realise that leaving Stonewall is the first step of a much needed process.

The department will be just as welcoming to LGBT people as before, but we really shouldn’t be paying thousands of pounds for controversial advice about pronouns and gender-neutral spaces.”

I loved that bit. The MoJ spent £10,126.80 on stonewall between 2018 & 2020.