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Organisations Leaving Stonewall: The List

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Barracker · 29/05/2021 19:50

Thought it would be handy to keep a running list here of organisations who have done 'budget reviews' or similar and have subsequently decided that Stonewall are 'not value for money'.

EHRC
ACAS
House of Commons
DVLA
Dorset Police
The Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government

Do feel free to update the thread as more join the exodus.

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FindTheTruth · 07/06/2021 19:22

missed a bit...

Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency
Equality and Human Rights Commission
House of Commons
Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government
Ministry of Justice
Ofsted
London Borough of Hounslow
North Lanarkshire Council
Thurrock Council
West Sussex County Council
Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire Care Commissioning Group
NHS Highland
University College London (UCL)University of Winchester
West London College
Post Office
Anglian Water
Civil Nuclear Constabulary
Dorset Police
North Wales Police

FindTheTruth · 07/06/2021 19:20

Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency
Equality and Human Rights Commission
House of Commons
Ministry for Housing, Communities and Local Government
Ministry of Justice
Ofsted
London Borough of Hounslow
North Lanarkshire Council
Thurrock Council
West Sussex County Council
Bristol, North Somerset and South Gloucestershire Care Commissioning Group
NHS Highland

SpindleWhorl · 07/06/2021 14:01

Why do these charities and businesses never talk of their 'work' with all of the protected characteristics?

Northernmum100 · 07/06/2021 13:58

In my own little act of rebellion I have removed the compulsory Stonewall logo from my email signature at work today. Really hoping my employer will drop Stonewall altogether but in the meantime, if anyone challenges me, this forum has helped me prepare a very good argument. Thanks mumsnetters!

FannyCann · 07/06/2021 13:51

There's been things recently saying that x actually left Stonewall a while ago maybe orgs haven't been a oblivious as we thought?

Which maybe why the list wasn't updated. Hmm

Though I wondered if they were adding new sign ups but not removing those who left as Marie Curie state in their annual report for 2020 that they have just signed up last year, but they are on the list hence me digging and writing to them. 🤷‍♀️

Organisations Leaving Stonewall: The List
ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/06/2021 13:40

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

ItsAllGoingToBeFine It was archived on the 19th May, just before they took it down: *archive.li/Wn4Jb*

Thanks!
That says it was "Published 10 August 15" at the top, so I thought it was from then, not recent.

I missed that Blush. In which case that is rather dishonest of them, and interesting that they didn't keep it updated.

I would love to see a graph of number of diversity champions against time. There's been things recently saying that x actually left Stonewall a while ago maybe orgs haven't been a oblivious as we thought?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 07/06/2021 13:07

ItsAllGoingToBeFine
It was archived on the 19th May, just before they took it down:
archive.li/Wn4Jb

Thanks!
That says it was "Published 10 August 15" at the top, so I thought it was from then, not recent.

FannyCann · 07/06/2021 08:21

Libby Purves in the Times today

Stonewall’s word-policing only breeds more hate.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6032a216-c705-11eb-b6f5-fed739e7c1ca?shareToken=0e44317eb58cb239ee9aa2e23397e3555_

FannyCann · 07/06/2021 08:08

Screen shots of first post.

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FannyCann · 07/06/2021 08:06

Just quickly posting this twitter thread from Sarah Phillimore which discusses the global marketing of Stonewall within one of the major law firms. It must be awful to be a female employee in one of these firms, or indeed just an average straight guy, who's not much interested in other people's sexuality/gender.

twitter.com/svphillimore/status/1401510395114819584?s=21

highame · 07/06/2021 08:05

Looking at the Peak trans list. It's amazing how many articles arrive in 2021 and we're only half way through. The list each year getting longer from the 1 in 2018.

EyesOpening · 07/06/2021 08:04

So SW compile a list of the top 100, then you pay them to help you get higher, but they’re also being paid to help others to get higher too, which could push you down the list? Sounds like money well spent Shock

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 07/06/2021 07:54

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

It doesn't help that Stonewall has hidden their recent list behind a "join up as a member" wall -- or at least, I can't access it unless I am either a member or an affiliated organisation, which I ain't. So I have no idea what their claims are at present.
It was archived on the 19th May, just before they took it down:

archive.li/Wn4Jb

ixqik · 07/06/2021 06:13

This article is a good artefact to look back may have been the peak of the Stonefall gravy train. <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20210606121526/www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/ministry-of-justice-one-of-11-government-bodies-in-top-100-lgbtinclusive-employers" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20210606121526/www.civilserviceworld.com/professions/article/ministry-of-justice-one-of-11-government-bodies-in-top-100-lgbtinclusive-employers

SirVixofVixHall · 06/06/2021 23:16

Ruth Hunt, what a turncoat .

FOJN · 06/06/2021 21:37

Where is Ruth Hunt? Is she in hiding?

The house of Lords. It would be nice to think she will be called to account but I won't hold my breath.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 06/06/2021 21:24

It doesn't help that Stonewall has hidden their recent list behind a "join up as a member" wall -- or at least, I can't access it unless I am either a member or an affiliated organisation, which I ain't. So I have no idea what their claims are at present.

snowcobra · 06/06/2021 21:12

Looks like Sex Matters confirmed that UCL has left

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 06/06/2021 20:46

[quote ItsAllGoingToBeFine]UCL
Anglian Water
twitter.com/AnnMSinnott/status/1401592841890115584?s=19[/quote]
In the comments of that thread is someone saying UCL left in 2019 and others saying it's still a member.

I know how difficult it is to decode this information - not helped by organisations giving incorrect information. I posted an updated list after going through the FOAIs but I can see Uni of Bedfordshire misrepresented their position.

highame · 06/06/2021 20:35

Our position remains the same: women's rights are not Stonewall's to give away. There are no exceptions to the democratic process. I just had to post this somewhere FiLiA rocks

MaudTheInvincible · 06/06/2021 19:40
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Organisations Leaving Stonewall: The List
Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/06/2021 19:26

They keep on leaving.....

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 06/06/2021 18:42

UCL
Anglian Water
twitter.com/AnnMSinnott/status/1401592841890115584?s=19

WarriorN · 06/06/2021 08:25

Shared by tervens elsewhere!

I noticed on twitter last night that GoFundMe twitter were seriously promoting a Stonewall online music event. Figures. Angry

Paralithic · 06/06/2021 06:58

Some more additions to the list:

Nationwide Building Society
Hounslow Council
Thurrock Council