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When men intimidate women but don’t break the law. What’s the best thing to do?

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Nilbog · 29/05/2021 16:04

I feel like this happens a lot.

Shouting, driving aggressively, refusing to move out of the way, standing over women to show how much bigger they are etc.

It seems futile to report these incidents to the police but in my opinion they demonstrate a pattern of behaviour that should be take more seriously.

When I have made reports to police, I feel like I’m treated like I’m blowing things out of proportion and that nothing can (or rather will) be done.

So, what’s the best course of action? How/when will intimidating behaviour ever be seen for what it really is (power and control) and when will men be told not to do this?

Or should we continue to be small to protect ourselves in the name of self preservation?

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Iamaperwinkle · 29/05/2021 17:24

I have history

  1. Extremely abusive father (beat me etc)
  2. Dishes out mild praise and reeled me back in over and over again
  3. Apart from one decent boyfriend that my parents ridiculed as 'boring' and not having 'ambition' I've had two abusive marriages that ended in divorce -love bombing, then abuse and then divorce
  4. 4-5 abusive partners either emotional or financial

Yet my father calls himself a feminist etc -didn't stop him pushing my mother down the stairs when she was pregnant with me though.

I feel rage though........ events for the last few months have triggered my childhood abuse and looking at it -it is engrained. His father abused him -he abuses. He abused my mother -she enables and abuses me -as did siblings. My ex had contact with my son he is so emotionally abusive I just worry about my son. It's awful. What will stop it? Facing it. Making absent father pay for their children and being put in prison when they don't. Locking up abusive man who abuse on any level. The law needs to stop making excuses.

FindTheTruth · 29/05/2021 16:45

So there are 2 things here

  1. abusive partner - call the police or Woman's Aid Helpline www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/

  2. aggressive men in public - ?

It's a good question OP. I'm not an expert, hopefully someone who is will answer. But if someone recognises the behaviours, "As soon as they see it, victims and professionals are able to say, 'Oh my God, I've got a case at stage three', or 'My relationship is at stage five'," I once had a scary road rage incident and reported it on Police 111 and it was followed up with a visit to the man (but only because I had a second witness - passenger in the car). For other things, like standing over you I don't know. But I would think you can report it.

Just to check... are you safe now?

Leafstamp · 29/05/2021 16:41

This is a really good question OP.

With driving I refuse to be bullied and just stick to the speed limit watching them get more and more irate. If they do something like dangerously overtake I flash my lights (sometimes, and if I’m worked up).

For other things, I guess the MN “Did you mean to be so rude?” could come in handy. Or just a “sorry, I didn’t catch that, could you say it again?”

Nilbog · 29/05/2021 16:32

mrsterrypratchett thank you. My small act of resistance got me in to,a spot of bother earlier today.

I wish I was better at plotting revenge...

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Nilbog · 29/05/2021 16:31

@FindTheTruth. Yes, but the police didn’t ask about any of that.

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FindTheTruth · 29/05/2021 16:30

www.facebook.com/uniofglos/videos/2990124711003647

FindTheTruth · 29/05/2021 16:28

I called the police once as my ex wouldn’t leave.

@Nilbog - question for you about your ex ... did he do any of the things in this 8 stage timeline? (graphic attached) It's by Jane Monckton-Smith expert in VAWG. If your EX did any of these things I believe you have rights but I'm no expert. hopefully someone who knows can advise.

When men intimidate women but don’t break the law.  What’s the best thing to do?
MrsTerryPratchett · 29/05/2021 16:21

Small acts of resistance. When we can and to the best of our capacity. Support other women when we see it happen. Name it when we feel safe to do so. Talk about it. Believe and support other women when they talk about it.

And every now and then, maybe once every decade, I lose my living shit and shout, "just fuck off you arsehole". It hasn't happened in a while though. Possibly because the sexual harassment has slowed to a trickle in my late 40s. Hasn't stopped though.

FindTheTruth · 29/05/2021 16:20

OP can you raise it with the police commissioner?

That's a really good initiative embarrasing

Nilbog · 29/05/2021 16:15

Thanks Embarassing

I like the hashtags so that people can go and find out more.

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 29/05/2021 16:10

What's that social media account where you can report this and they go out and chalk an account of what happened?

Like this one in Edinburgh?

www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/defiant-edinburgh-women-chalk-vile-20457430

Chalkback London: www.facebook.com/pg/catcallsofldn/posts/

Nilbog · 29/05/2021 16:08

I called the police once as my ex wouldn’t leave. Two officers arrived, the female officer spoke to ex and told me he said “she’s not normally like this”.

The context is too long to explain but he was shouting “I’m not leaving” and yet he was suggesting my behaviour was off balance.

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