ACAS confirms it has left Stonewall - the Times

[quote ChazsBrilliantAttitude]More sunlight
www.personneltoday.com/hr/stonewalls-diversity-scheme-accused-of-being-unlawful/[/quote]
The first half of this piece is a good basis for letters to schools, perhaps? It's very 'cut to the chase' from a good source.

Alternative song for the day, if the PSB's is too naff for SOME PEOPLE:

More sunlight
www.personneltoday.com/hr/stonewalls-diversity-scheme-accused-of-being-unlawful/

Unison's Women's Committee National chair is a biological male who identifies as a woman.
It seems that the current women's committee chair was previously a representative of the union's trans caucus.

I think if MF wins her case it will strengthen AB’s position further. I wonder how enthusiastic SW will be for this fight in 12 months time.

This is the best news I've seen all week. The capture of ACAS left me really dispirited. We already lost the support of the Trade Unions and the Labour Party.

"In AEA's Court Hearing it emerged that EHRC, having corrected its own guidance [thanks to AEA], it advised some orgs to also correct their guidance. ACAS guidance changed a few months ago. Now this."
twitter.com/AnnMSinnott/status/1398159964334612480?s=19

I imagine that would have something to do with their decision...

[quote ArabellaScott]Gosh, yes, it is quite a lot of money for a scheme that misrepresents the law, when you think about it, isn't it? [blinks]

Come on, everyone. Cost savings! Let's do it!

Domino time.

Briefly wondered "who posted that? Was it...?", and indeed it was when I scrolled up.

Title (at least) of this one is more relevant, even if the rest of the lyrics aren't:

And all the people in the video seem to be having far much more fun than some of their alleged contemporaries...

I wonder if ACAS are going to review their policies?

They wouldn't switch to being a solely trans lobby group (although they technically are now) for the same reasons they added the T onto an already established lobby group in 2015.

They needed to appropriate and hide behind oppressed groups because if they didn't have gay rights to use as shield they wouldn't have got the power and money they have now.

Great news.

Dominoes toppling over.

Stonewall Costs Too Much.

In so many ways! Oh and literally too...

"T" has no direct connection with "LGB" and this is a distraction in an age where gays still get thrown from roofs in some parts of the world

How were SW able to appropriate elements of male gay culture and announce it to be 'trans' and 'woman'? Just how?

And also, how were SW also able to appropriate niche elements of male heterosexual sexual culture and announce it to be 'trans' and 'woman'? And have major organisations believe it?

Stonewall Costs Too Much.

I think what goes on in your head should be what happens IRL Arabella

Unison's Women's Committee National chair is a biological male who identifies as a woman.

Out of the hundreds of thousands of female members of Unison, the most capable one of leading is male.

What are the chances?

I reckon they are stalling, hoping Allison's legal costs will spiral.

As a PP said, it is chilling how quickly and fully public organisations got on board with this, defying common sense. The sceptic in me wonders what next?

ofwarren Allison Baileys case is not till 2022 and will take 20 days ... I think it’s been delayed because SW are delaying sending in their case papers, or something.

• I should clarify, this inquiry is just something I think in my own head should happen. Not actually a thing, yet.

Aye, Eresh, people have been trying to paint feminism as a cesspit of rightwing Xtian US alt/loony left/misandry/ whatever for years. It doesn't work because it's inaccurate, and mud-slinging might play well on Twitter but it doesn't seem to work so well outwith social media.

Actually, maybe the inquiry needs to look into media and social media and how these are sometimes 'gamed' to use leverage and disproportionate influence.

The sad thing about all of this is that companies and especially schools do need good practices & ethos to make sure staff and children are not bullied for being gay, or for identifying as trans, and to generally be places which are accceoting of difference. There is a need for training and template policies to help in this area. That was a good aim. And it's all gone horribly wrong in 5 years.

I feel no joy in the downfall of Stonewall. It was founded with good intent s28 was an abomination (I say that as a straight person). Gay people are still dying in some countries- not through wrong pronouns- but being hanged or thrown off buildings. Stonewall, Amnesty et al. should be there for them not wasting their time unwinding women’s rights.

I take little pleasure in Stonewall’s difficulties but as a woman I do feel a huge sense of relief that the siege on my rights might be lifting.