ACAS confirms it has left Stonewall - the Times

There's this, Avocado?

www.acas.org.uk/supporting-trans-employees-in-the-workplace

Can anyone point me to how ACAs has changed its guidance? I looked a few years ago (I think by searching transgender) and was disappointed to see they came out firmly on the ‘trans people can access whichever toilets they prefer’ side. Now when I search nothing comes up. Have they changed something or just removed stuff?

£10 on GCHQ.

I had ACAS training a couple of weeks ago - 100% captured. Although it probably takes a while for the direction at the top to filter down.

It's a shame ACAS and EHRC aren't on this famous full-page advertisement. It would be a useful progress-tracking tool, could cross out organisations as they jump ship one by one.

I reckon one of the big banks will go next.

Sorry, I quoted Puddycatfan there by mistake. But I agree anyway: huge relief as the structure of misogyny starts to crumble.

Or was ACAS captured, and glad to have Stonewall as an excuse? I don’t know which is worse: deliberate misogyny, or incompetence by people you have to rely on.

Wish other organisations had actually thought through a bit more before getting that organisation in to advise them. I mean surely it’s obvious that Sex rights still (are supposed) to exist.
I really hope some of these woke organisations get taken to court by their employees who have been adversely affected by these decisions and new policies.

As I said, Twisties, I've no way of verifying that information. I expect if you checked with individual schools they coudl confirm or deny.

Would be interesting to find out how many are no longer Diversity Champions ...

It would be nice if the Labour party now re-drafted their recent publication about discrimination rights - which included gender and not sex. People tried to put them right, but were ignored.

Arabella, thank you for that link. 11 schools showed up in our postcode radius, very enlightening.

Brilliant, sanity prevails.

I hope more leave SW. these champions are not safe places for lesbians.

A quick Google showed they were fully paid up members of Stonewall and the head of dept (a woman) was a full on Stonewall champion or had won some award from them or something.

I found it very concerning. I thought lawyers would be the last to fall given they actually read and interpret the bloody law and most intelligent people accept humans can't change sex - this was a few years ago. People like the kimono-wearing fox beater have sadly disabused me of the notion.

It has made me all the more in awe of Anya, Allison et al however.

On the same note, I must share with you that my 10 year old son was talking about trans issues yesterday. He talked about 'feeling like a man as he's a man' and when I suggested that to think men all feel the same or all feel different than women is a regressive stereotype on which previous highly sexist ideologies were built, and when we talked about the damage natal males can do to both women's health and women's chances in sports, he said perhaps we should all just talk about sex instead of gender! We then talked about whether people can change sex and I told him about (some) of the differences between constructed genitalia versus the ones we are born with and the internal difference between males and females. Afterwards he decided people can't change sex and he thought it was sad if young people make it impossible for themselves to have kids in the future if they wanted. I hope he will spread the word. He, and I, will continue to defend a transwoman's right to call herself a transwoman and to wear whatever she wants so I am not raising him as a transphobe, but neither am I raising him as a femalephobe.

Fab news

The ship is sinking

Did the Govt have issues very precise guidelines about organisations like this in Schools and what is and isn’t not allowed? If so we will have to monitor what they say

Imo, the DfE have washed their hands by making the advice
A) non statutory
B) non specific

When you compare the curriculum to, say the RE advice on dealing with religions that have unpalatable ideas, it's very lacking in concrete examples and what should and should not be taught.
For example, RE is very clear on what elements of the religion and how it should be taught, with examples. It also gives clear advice that teachers shouldn't actively promote xyz to pupils and gives examples of how to discuss things in a neutral way.
In contrast the DfE advice is deliberately wooly and features far more should note than shoulds, with far too much left up to professional judgement.
Which is hilarious because they don't trust our professional judgement when it comes to maths, English or even art!

parentpower.family/stonewall-champion-schools/

A list of schools signed up as stonewall champions. (I don't know anything about this site, though, or how reliable/current it is.)

www.stonewall.org.uk/stonewall-school-college-champion-membership

Stonewall - Membership fees

Band 1: 0-100 students: £150 + VAT per year with 2 free e-learning places

Band 2: 101-300 students: £275 + VAT per year with 4 free e-learning places

Band 3: 301-500 students: £375 + VAT per year with 6 free e-learning places

Band 4: 501-1,000 students: £450 + VAT per year with 8 free e-learning places

Band 5: 1,001-2,000 students: £550 + VAT per year with 12 free e-learning places

Band 6: More than 2,000 students: £800 + VAT per year with 20 free e-learning places

Just reiterating this:

An independent report published by Essex University concluded that Stonewall’s advice was misleading and potentially illegal by misrepresenting the Equality Act 2010 to suggest the legislation included “gender identity”

...“This policy is founded on an erroneous understanding of the law,” said Reindorf. “In my view the policy states the law as Stonewall would prefer it to be, rather than the law as it is. To that extent the policy is misleading.”

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In their new strategy they are going after the school market. We must all fight to keep them out, and they have provided plenty of ammunition for us.”

Isn’t the DofE one of their biggest donors?
I wonder how much it costs to become a Stonewall champion? I’m surprised that schools would have the budget for it.

I don't know which person or board decision set Stonewall on the path to effectively be corporate UK's outsourced 'diversity' department

It is about meeting requirements of equality legislation, organizations do not sign up just to be woke

How could signing up to Stonewall possibly do those things properly? I'd have thought the main axes of lack of diversity and discrimination in most workplaces are still race, sex and disability.

PSBs? Naff? Nah, mate, try this:

I have dear old Freddie as an earworm