I think I might have just come out as GC on FB

fairplayforwomen.com/pronouns/

There was a conviction of sex by deception in the UK - a case of a young female person who presented as male (but, I don't think they actually said they were trans) and had a relationship with a young woman. She consented to penetrative sex as part of their relationship. but, her partner did not have a penis and somehow managed to disguise this under blankets and used dildos on her. Which she did not consent to.

That person was found guilty and served a sentence, and, I have heard, then moved to Wales and did the same thing to some other naive young woman.

So, very unusual because that is a female sexual predator, but, the principle of sex by deception was clear enough for her to be convicted of a nasty crime.

I think if anyone ever tried to compel me to put pronouns in my email I’d put he/him. Is that wrong? I don’t identify as male (obvs) but I identify as wanting to be treated with respect and taken seriously.

Back to the original point, I’ve come out as feminist on FB and am slowly working my way up to GC.

Xiaoxiong - that’s great what your CEO has said

@IAmFleshIAmBone have you had any comments on the article you shared?

Well I just had a chat with our CEO who also founded our company and he absolutely wholeheartedly embraced the unconscious bias issue, the compelled speech issue and said while he is CEO pronouns will never be mandatory, if a few people want to put pronouns in their bios it's their choice but he won't let it become a peer pressure situation. He's vocally left-wing at work, we have all sorts of diversity initiatives (lots of data tracking, standing items at meetings relating to diversity in our investment pipeline and in our hiring processes, internships for people from underrepresented backgrounds to break into our industry etc) so a huge relief to find that he is gender critical and much more informed than I expected - in fact, more informed than the junior female staff who have brought it up.

Good for you, people should always stand up for their beliefs.

Wow they really are lost now, aren't they! Whatever happened to "no means no".

@ClingFilmAndGafferTape here you go:

legalfeminist.org.uk/2020/07/19/pronouns-compulsion-and-controversy/

I particularly drew my colleague's attention to the second section, about how putting pronouns in bios draws attention to the fact that the person is female and unconscious bias then comes into play. My colleagues that are pushing this are all female and much younger than me and I don't think they've actually encountered a lot of sexism in the workplace yet.

Hope you will be okay OP!

In a strange way I am the other way round. I have never really used facebook for actual friends, but did used to have quite a few facebook friends.

And even though I try to post politely on groups of common interest I think somehow my believe that sex is biological and real, means that my circle of FB friends has shrunk as I get edged out of this group or page.

Just waiting to end what has been a fairly positively situation because someone posted as part of the anniversary of the death of George Floyd some self serving tweet from Owen Jones about "solidarity" with BLM but in fact was at a Stand up to Racism demo. So I pointed out that was typical of OJ to align with a group that thinks women in left women groups shouldn't complain about rape (remember Comrade Delta) and his need to self publicise was not the main purpose of remembering the horrific death of George Floyd.

Well done OP
I don't do Facebook and I wouldn't dare stick my neck out like this but thank you

Well done, Xiao! You're just upholding the existing law, it's exactly what should be done.

Well done! I wish I had the nerve but I'm another wokesville worker. One day tho...

I spoke out today at work, I had no choice as I was in a diversity/ESG meeting and one of our junior associates (female, very right on) put "gender pronouns" on the agenda, lots of "being kind" and "it's really helpful". I said I disagreed and sent the link round from the Legal Feminist blog, have yet to have a reply so quite nervous.

Solidarity!!!

Cheers, OP. Every post makes it easier for others. Well done.

Anyone who thinks that an organisation trying to decriminalise sex by deception (seriously, SEX BY DECEPTION!) is anything other than abhorrent has really, truly, lost perspective.

How can a reasonable human being think that sex by deception is EVER the morally correct 'side'.

Is there a link to it, OP?

That latest Graham Linehan post is really upsetting. Def worth it!