Live now - Lizz Truss oral evidence to WESC: The role of the GEO: embedding equalities across Government

And of course we're grateful for the contribution they made, but I think there were fundamental disagreements, namely members of the panel supported self-id for gender recognition certificates. I very strongly feel that there need to be checks and balances. The issue here is a fundamental difference of opinion on that issue'

Wow - that’s bloody amazing!! She really couldn’t be clearer. Thank you Liz

Sounds almost as if the conversion therapy ban is being offered as a sop for the trans lobby. If it is, I hope they word it very carefully to avoid banning the gold standard watchful waiting approach to child gender dysphoria.

I think this could backfire on Stonewall, actually. There's a very strong case one could make that 'transitioning' children is a form of conversion therapy. Staff at the Tavi said as much.

Two v important and linked points.

In the consultation that the government have outlined re conversion therapy - we ALL need to make this clear.

The medicalisation of children who present with gender dysphoria - many of whom are children who will grow up to be gay/lesbian, as advocated by SW IS conversion therapy.

I don’t think the consultation is open yet??!!

Sounds almost as if the conversion therapy ban is being offered as a sop for the trans lobby. If it is, I hope they word it very carefully to avoid banning the gold standard watchful waiting approach to child gender dysphoria.

I think this could backfire on Stonewall, actually. There's a very strong case one could make that 'transitioning' children is a form of conversion therapy. Staff at the Tavi said as much.

A LOT of very angry men on twitter, bemoaning the rolling back of trans rights

Love to know what these rights are they claim are being rolled back. They have NO right to be in female sports or any other space where the equality act exemptions are upheld.

The new Stonewall strap line is 'Free to Be'. I agree that this is very close to 'Safe to be me'. This along with the logo looking identical to the EHRC is v strange. I am surprised they are allowed a logo that is so similar.

During the interview on LBC yesterday there was a caller who rang in about converstion therapy and trans stuff, Liz Truss is definitely on this.

Wow! She is really setting out her stall here, stating equal rights for all and no single group is going to be given special attention. I love that she’s taking no shit from anyone.

We've set out our plan for LGBT advancement for rights. I talked earlier about the LGBT international conference, that will be the first one the UK has ever held on the theme of "Safe to be me", showing our global leadership on the issue. We're also in the Queens speech announce that we will be legislating to ban conversion therapy in this country.

Sounds almost as if the conversion therapy ban is being offered as a sop for the trans lobby. If it is, I hope they word it very carefully to avoid banning the gold standard watchful waiting approach to child gender dysphoria.

That sounds very much like Stonewall's new catchphrase right?
With copying the EHRC branding and this...

Did Truss say that?!

Fabulous!

A LOT of very angry men on twitter, bemoaning the rolling back of trans rights....They know they've lost and self ID will never happen. Thank you Liz!

I think watching that was pretty informative. No doubt lots of undercurrents and subtexts going on, and I think Truss was making it quite clear that the govt weren't going to be bullied into pandering to Stonewall law.

Well done Liz 👏

Yes. On this she's right and I'm grateful that she's taking a strong line rather than just trying to kick it into the long grass and hoping it'll go away. I think a very strong message is being sent to Stonewall. They really have pissed on their chips.

I think there's a lot of pent-up resentment at having to go along with Stonewall because it's Stonewall all these years. Stonewall overreached and now everyone is at last able to say no.

Now we need urgently to find a way of preventing Stonewall, Mermaids and all the other purveyors of gender crap getting into schools.

All through Brexit I couldn't stand Liz Truss, now I have a lot of respect for her. One thing this has taught me you can agree about some things and not others. She takes no shit.

Noakes really doesn't look happy, does she? I think Truss has really pissed on her chips. If Noakes ever wonders why she's not a Minister, this select committee today shows the reasons

Ah, someone on now to refocus us on the LGBT issues.

Truss again:

'we should be focussed on individual dignity'
'sometimes these issues come into conflict'

conversion therapy ... 'I find that completely abhorrent'

Noakes really doesn't look happy, does she? I think Truss has really pissed on her chips.

Now talking about VAWG.

I loved her on LBC yesterday "women have vaginas Nick" she absolutely rocks.

'empowering women, educating women and girls'

It's so refreshing to hear simple, straightforward language. Mazing.