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"I don’t think I will ever feel 100% safe again.” Why are women still treated as completely unimportant?

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CardinalLolzy · 24/05/2021 19:21

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/may/24/it-was-like-a-horror-film-sophie-walker-on-her-stalking-nightmare-and-how-the-police-failed-her

Yet another appalling story of man stalking woman (and children) and the police being utterly shit.
I know they are desperately underfunded but surely this sort of thing should be an easy case and stopping him early would prevent a lot of further police work when it inevitably turns into serious harm or murder?

Why is this acceptable?

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EmbarrassingAdmissions · 25/05/2021 07:47

Legalisation of rape.

We're not far away from legalisation of 'sex gone wrong' even when it ends in death. I wonder how many cases of serious harm (eg, strokes, trachea or other life-altering injuries) under similar circumstances have no publicity in the MSM.

endofthelinefinally · 25/05/2021 07:39

I posted a thread about the level of domestic violence perpetrated against women by police officers. I think this is very significant, but there was no interest whatsoever. On a site dominated by women. It is so deeply embedded in our society, at every level. Women are expendable.

NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob · 25/05/2021 07:35

@NiceGerbil says “There is no interest in society in tackling this. TBH this extends to children as well. And gay men I'm sure.”

I’m going to politely disagree. Acres of coverage were devoted to the predatory rapist who picked up young men in Manchester, took them back to his flat, drugged and raped them. At the time I was very struck by the almost total absence of victim-blaming, especially when contrasted to the Ched Evans case or the Ulster rugby players, both cases where the woman was regarded as the architect of her own fate because she had been drinking and/or went to a party. (I suppose I had better state here that all those men were found not guilty.)

PlanDeRaccordement · 25/05/2021 07:35

Welcome to womanhood. Only children feel 100% safe.

NoIdontwanttoseeyourknob · 25/05/2021 07:30

I read that story yesterday and it made me angry and despairing in equal measure. The police telling a terrified woman to “calm down” when a man has been setting her property on fire and demolishing her roof. Angry

Pyewackect · 25/05/2021 04:44

It's becasuse we don't have a Justice System in this country, just a Legal System.

Zinco · 25/05/2021 04:23

Political leaders don't have the appetite for using a tougher approach. All sides are fairly rubbish on this issue. This isn't "society". If they ever asked society in a referendum then law and order policy could likely be quite different. And that's whether it's stalking of women or violent attacks on men.

A "tough" approach to crime is seen as backwards and lacking in compassion, or lacking in wisdom as to what actually works to reform people. If society is too punitive that's "taking revenge" and revenge is a bad thing.

So there is a type of thinking and a type of attitude behind it, and they have the moral high ground; at least they think they do.

Shelddd · 25/05/2021 02:59

@NiceGerbil

'Unfortunately society has moved beyond women's safety.'

I don't understand this comment? There was never a time when it was genuinely taken seriously I don't think.

There was a time when it was being talked about a lot. Now it's barely even a conversation. Sure the odd incident here and there might spark the conversation for a couple weeks.
NiceGerbil · 25/05/2021 02:39

'Unfortunately society has moved beyond women's safety.'

I don't understand this comment? There was never a time when it was genuinely taken seriously I don't think.

NiceGerbil · 25/05/2021 02:37

Guardian today. 1.6% of reported rapes resulted in a charge.

Not a conviction. Anyone being charged.

I said to DH what has been said on here before. And I read it and thought ok but I didn't want to accept it iyswim.

Rape is effectively legal.

Why would that be?

Because in the end. Society goes omg it's such a terrible appalling crime. But each time in practice it's. What was she wearing, why was she there, why did she walk, why did she go home with him, why didn't she leave etc etc etc etc etc.

There is no interest in society in tackling this. TBH this extends to children as well. And gay men I'm sure. Straight men I suspect don't report very often which is another issue.

Women and girls are the largest victim group though.

And the perpetrators are almost always men. And I don't think society wants to face up to the reality of it all. It's easier to minimise, victim blame, and look the other way.

I don't know what can be done.

Shelddd · 25/05/2021 02:26

Unfortunately society has moved beyond women's safety.. it's crazy how we moved the attention away from women (50% of the worlds population) to things like trans (

NiceGerbil · 25/05/2021 02:23

Not read the link sorry.

I don't think society cares. They say they do but they don't. We. As a society.

It's not a good conclusion but it's the only one I can come to.

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