Kathleen Stock OBE: Trans Women Aren't Women : A discussion

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It's poetry.

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You really think people were not transitioning in the seventies?

what pp said- but also those who did transition (and i know a couple in the 70s-80s after much counselling) did not insist they became the other sex. they defined themselves as transexuals not as women. do you understand the difference soulman?

What's the difference between a blender and a smoothie maker? One is for mixing up food and the other is for fixing up moods. Needs work, I'll admit.

You really think people were not transitioning in the seventies?

Of course they were, but they tended to be very rare cases of extreme dysphoria, who were treated with care and able to have surgery as adults as a last resort if it was the best way to alleviate their suffering.

Not "ROGD" girls who are clearly being encouraged into thinking they are boys and told they can literally change sex. Us women who went through this and grew up happy to be women are clear examples of how wanting to be a boy did not equal being trans. It just meant we realised being a girl was crap and being a non-girly girl even harder.

The answer to that is feminism and working against gender roles controlling people's lives, and letting any girl be the kind of girl she likes. Not just shoving a girl who doesn't meet a feminine stereotype into having to be a masculine stereotype, complete with with bodily harm.

blender is the name for the mysterious third sex.
hey there's loads of proof also y'all have changed your views since 77 or your hair cuts you lots are weirdly obsessed with something that will do no harm also your name sounds like a blender

what will always be a puzzle is how this incoherent ideology captured so many institutions. i look forward to the enquiry.

OK I think I've cracked it. Kathleen Stock. You could put stock in a blender you see.Back in our youth there was an advert for a stock cube called Oxo. Possibly in 77! And the lady in the ad was called Kathy. I hope....I might be overthinking this 😕

You really think people were not transitioning in the seventies?

Yup me too exactly the same situation campervan.

One of the instructions in that Edinburgh university list of banned behaviours discussed recently, was that you can't say "I used to want to be a boy" to trans people. But it's incredibly important. A significan proportion of girls obviously notice that gender expectations suck, boys get an easier ride and that wanting to do/showing an interest in "boy stuff" or to not be feminine can lead to them being bullied and excluded. OF COURSE they may well have a stage of wishing they were / wanting to be a boy. In fact it was a key step along the road to being a feminist for me. Understanding this is absolutely key to helping GNC girls become happy, self-accepting women.

hey there's loads of proof

That's not an argument. You're meant to give examples of the proof and explain your argument. Otherwise how will you persuade anyone to agree with you? Do you literally think you just tell people what to think, call them names and that's all you need to do? Why?

Campervan are you me?

Thanks for posting OP looking forward to watching this

I just checked with my blender and it goes by the name Ninja. Can't find any pronouns.

Proof that you can find anything on eBay: if you’ve got a spare £100 you can get a vintage 1977 blender

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313352651283

I dunno, there were some pretty cool hairstyles around in 1977:

www.google.com/amp/s/www.pinterest.com/amp/lotusseki/1977-hair/

I didn’t have one, because I wasn’t born yet. I’ve always regretted missing out on the 70s

Dammit, I've forgotten how to name change, was going to go for PermanentTemporaryMagimix.

Should we move on to ask politicians their favourite blender instead of now? Should we ask for a blender emoticon? It says everything about smashing the gender binary that they associate Mumsnet with kitchen equipment.

In case anyone thinks I'm all about the smoothie...

Originating as an Olympic lift, the clean and press works no fewer than eight different muscle groups. The lower half of the movement strengthens your hips, glutes, and hamstrings, while the upper half of the movement targets your shoulders, chest, back, and arms.

In 1977 I had a boy's haircut, I wanted to be a boy as I thought girls were boring. I only ever wore jeans outside of school uniform. Fortunately we lived in a different time, one where it was well known that people can't change sex. Once I went through female puberty, I stopped wanting to be a boy and wanted to snog them instead.

So I grew up to be a healthy adult female and had 3 fabulous children. The end.

Like the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man in Ghostbusters.

You just have to accept when you're beaten.

Interesting video, thanks for sharing

Not a blender 😲😲😲

Can't stop laughing today, makes a change. Going to watch sensible Ms Stock now.

Looking at all the names involved and desperately trying to find any connections to blenders

No, don't do it. That's exactly what he wants you to do.

For god's sake think of anything but blenders.

Coffee percolators. Yes. Think about coffee percolators.