EHRC cuts ties with Stonewall.

Rabbitwoman

I'm not going to forget or settle. These bastards have ruined my peace of mind for the last five years. I am a victim of serious sexual assault and violence by men and I have been traumatised by the activities of these 'charities' and their attacks on women and women's rights. They should be held to account and the public need to know how close they came to succeeding.

And it isn't over yet, the threat is still there.

Here is a link to the Sex Matters letter calling for a public enquiry which anyone can add a signature to.

twitter.com/sexmattersorg/status/1394917452157493248?s=21

Stonewall blocked me this week - along with a load of other women, it seems - and are now flouncing about with this shittage on twitter, blimey, who the hell runs their account!!?

I think the Daily Mail article on this is excellent. I can’t see anything on the Guardian website....

This is amazing news. I think for any organisations that want to step away, this is their get out but they will do it quietly. The one thing I cling on to is that this issue has ignited radical feminism in many women and shown liberal feminism for the sham it is. Obviously those on the ground won't get recognition for the amazing work they've done and continue to do on this issue but it was ever thus. Many of us also aren't as naive as we once were and can now see how easily we almost lost everything. Vigilance is key going forward. I for one will never forget how easily organisations capitulated when they didn't have to.

That is such an extraordinary response by Stonewall that I think archiving it might be sensible:

archive.fo/wip/xPLjT

I REALLY hate the way they co-opt language traditionally associated with sexual matters.

THIS isn't "creepy".... we know what is creepy, and it isn't this.

.... I have a dream that Glinner is commissioned to write the film version of The Ickabog, starring James Dreyfus!!!

Stonewall just listed this twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1396374101988569091?s=09

I'm not really sure they want to be highlighting this to all of their followers?

Here's to many 'budget realignments'.

Excellent. Things are going in the right direction and it's such a relief.

Sex matters are calling for a public enquiry into Stonewall which I would love to see.

Glinner said in his podcast a few weeks ago that this is a monumental fight in which if won, it will basically uphold the stays quo (women having separate spaces by definition of sex). In a few years from now the majority of 'friendly unawares' will have no idea how close this came and what a HUGE war on women this was.

People will just pretend they never thought that TW are actually women. They'll just never talk if it again.

I hope the Mayas, the Allison's and the Keira Bell's in this get the recognition they deserve. On a basic level, I hope James Dreyfus starts being hired for acting roles again and Glinner starts being able to write comedy again that programme makers will actually answer an email or two of his!

Pressed post too soon!
The reason why I say this, is because justice and apologies will never be forthcoming.

Abusive people twist and twist and twist and never come to a sudden realisation that they are wrong.

We will win, and indeed, we are winning. But we will never, ever get an apology.

Good. Tear the wall down brick by brick.

Public Inquiry needed.

These people need to be held to account for the systematic attempt to trash women's rights. And we women need to never forget or become complacent. They almost won and we are not safe yet, so keep at it.

I think it's worth considering how patterns of abuse in domestic life are replicated in the political sphere. This podcast examines the issue:

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/resistance-radio-guest-josh-slocum/id723644446?i=1000512945534

"This is not about trans, it's not about feeding impoverished children, it's not about women's rights....what they want is control...obedience...performative obdience....What they want you to do, is for you to ... speak the lie [in front of other people]"

So do we all need to send M&S, Ikea, the banks and the army and every ruddy school in the nation a copy of the Essex report, the EHRC statement and that article from the Daily Mail?

I understand that being a Stonewall Diversity Champ involves hundreds of hours of work for an organisation on top of the fee they have to pay. For many organisations, being able to give this up will be a welcome relief.

This is extremely encouraging news. Budget cuts are the best place to get rid of stuff that doesn’t deliver any value

I am actually happy with the way that they’ve chosen to play it, because, like tibtom upthread, I think that (infuriating as it is), we have to leave a path for people to walk back from their extreme positions.

Agreed - the people we need to get SW out of the organisations are the same people/depts/viewpoints who brought SW in.

Therefore a respectable exit for them is required.

Eyes on the prize!

Hopefully - lots more budget cuts to come!

That an organisation responsible for the enforcement of equality laws should have hooked up for so long with a lobbying group deliberately misinterpreting the law - to press its own agenda - needs an investigation

I would hazard a guess that EHRC (and others) first hooked up back when Stonewall was "maybe we could try being nice to gay people", rather than when it became "shut up women!".
Remember, they tried to do as much as possible on the quiet, and then pretend it had always been like that.I believe there are still many people, and 'champions', out there who have no idea what is going on.

Ahem, Allison with two Ls isn't a spelling mistake.

Allison Bailey's case has really shaken things up. Thank you, Allison.

Yes, thank you Alison 🙏

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