EHRC cuts ties with Stonewall.

I was coming here to post that Stonewall tweet. I'm actually shocked by the tone of it. So inappropriate in tone.

Tick Tock

Then, astonishingly, they followed up with this

Are they actually on glue? Do they think that this is an appropriate, never mind adequate response?

Mind blowing. Gonna get on with reinforcing the idea that Stonewall are not fit for purpose by posting like a sixteen year old’s closing lines before slamming the door to their bedroom because GOD MUM YOURE SUCH A FUCKING KAREN.

Maybe they feel they have nothing to lose anymore...

I seem to recall from the initial #dontsubmittostonewall FOIs that other orgs were also not renewing their memberships. I suspect the EHRC may just be the most high profile so far.

They are losing memberships, and perhaps more importantly they are losing credibility. Unless they sort themselves out this really is the beginning of the end for them.

[quote Leafstamp]It’s so worth reading the comments here:

mobile.twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1396374108955455491[/quote]
Haha, if you're not blocked 😂

Although I have read the replies by searching Stonewall then looking at the @ column, I am not blocked from reading the replies....

.... But you see, this has WORKED for so long. This kind of tactic - bullying, threats, ridicule....

And this is learnt in schools and at home, because this WORKS on teachers whose hands are tied by enabling parents.

Nancy Kelley has retweeted this embarrassingly unprofessional tweet. So even the CEO is endorsing this style of SM comms?!

I’m truly agog.

Excellent news!

Wow....that tweet from Stonewall....really? A large , mostly publicly funded charity, is being called out in the national press for bullying a black lesbian professional, and that it’s policies breach equalities law, being accused of discrimination.....and that is it’s considered response? Really?

What the actual?

Ahhhh! Makes sense now!

It’s so worth reading the comments here:

mobile.twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1396374108955455491

What we also need to focus on is strengthening protections in a way that makes them harder to remove next time. Build stronger defences so the next storm can’t breach them.
I am happy to campaign for third spaces alongside women’s single sex spaces but I will be pushing for stronger ring fencing of sex based protections.

I am sure we largely have the new chair Baroness Faulkner to thank for this. So I don't think it is a running scared situation. I think the adults came in into the room, and I am thankful for her, also I wouldn't underestimate all the unseen bravery that was probably required to made this happen.

Whoever manages their social media will be blocking a lot of people today...

In her recent interview with What The Trans, Nancy Kelly said that 17% of Stonewall'employees are trans. This is HUGELY disproportionate to the population surely? She was very proud of this and wanted to increase it.

A good way forward for Stonewall might be to become a trans only service? There's no harm in that, and if there is an appetite for it, it might be a good thing? Fill it with sensible trans people who know the law and will work WITH the LGB community and women's groups, surely it can only be a good thing?

Stonewall is trending on Twitter.

Here comes the sun

Looks like they've let someone the youngest person yet run the Stonewall Twitter account today.

In a few years from now the majority of 'friendly unawares' will have no idea how close this came and what a HUGE war on women this was.

I will be so very happy if this prediction becomes true.

It feels like we've made some impact but there's still a long way to go.

Good thread about this with DA EA connection:

"Jacob T. Levy's piece about Authoritarianism and Post-Truth Politics highlighted this":

[The] great analysts of truth and speech under totalitarianism—George Orwell, Hannah Arendt, Vaclav Havel—can help us recognize this kind of lie for what it is. Sometimes—often—a leader with authoritarian tendencies will lie in order to make others repeat his lie both as a way to demonstrate and strengthen his power over them.

Saying something obviously untrue, and making your subordinates repeat it with a straight face in their own voice, is a particularly startling display of power over them. It’s something that was endemic to totalitarianism.

Good OP in this thread:www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3312516-Are-we-arguing-about-the-wrong-thing?reverse=1

I hope James Dreyfus starts being hired for acting roles again and Glinner starts being able to write comedy again that programme makers will actually answer an email or two of his! I think, unless the BBC looks at it's programme procurement department, this wont happen. I read somewhere that the % of trans in the department is very high. BBC impartiality is seriously impacted

Go home, Stonewall, you’re drunk.

In a few years from now the majority of 'friendly unawares' will have no idea how close this came and what a HUGE war on women this was.

There are many people who don't think Y2K or the ozone hole were a big thing.

There are many people who worked hard to make sure they weren't.

That's our best case scenario.

We're not in it for the glory, right?

If the majority of the public know what we did, then far more people were hit by it than ever should have been. We want this to come to an end as soon as possible, before it really gets out of hand. We don't want to be cleaning up afterwards.

Helen Joyce :

I can't stop this, but I can hopefully play a part in shortening it so there will be some number fewer of getting kids who are sterilized because of what I'm doing and writing and that gives me a moral clarity and purpose in what I'm doing.

Who is in charge of stonewall’s Twitter, and more importantly, does their mum know?