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I've turned my husband and he's turned his employer

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Umpteenthiteration · 21/05/2021 07:43

I've been banging on for the past three years or so about what is happening with gender ideology and how damaging it is to conflate sex and gender (whatever the heck 'gender' is). Husband has nodded along and make positive noises but didn't really seem to get it. But this morning he informed me that having been involved in a consultation at work about proposed plans for a diversity and inclusion day he made it clear that they needed to replace 'gender' with 'sex' as they were two completely different things. We're talking a major global organisation here and he was giving feedback at country-level. Go him!

The conversations we have with people do make a difference.
He's been radicalised by Mumsnet by proxy.

As you were Grin

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Immunetypegoblin · 21/05/2021 10:21

Nice work!

Apileofballyhoo · 21/05/2021 10:17

That's fantastic, OP.

OhRene · 21/05/2021 10:02

My husband "yes dear"s me when I read him the latest TRA shite I see here, or I go on about about males in women's sports needing banned etc. He says he agrees but I have to question if he actually "gets it" because he is, of course, a man and it feels like he has no concept of what women go through on a daily basis. So far he has never said anything countering my views and what is said on these boards but I have to wonder if any sinks in at all.

I can only hope that if ever this type of stuff comes up anywhere, he is like your DP, OP and stands up for us.

Erikrie · 21/05/2021 09:51

Well done op. It's the ripple in the pond effect. Brilliant news.

UhtredRagnarson · 21/05/2021 09:22

YES!! Well done OP. We’re getting there.

Abhannmor · 21/05/2021 09:15

@Irishmom7

Go you and your husband. I turned a mom at the school gates with one brief conversation and a loan of “Irreversible damage”. Her husband lectures at a VERY “woke” university. And now she has turned him. Drip drop.
More power to your elbow. I've been thinking of getting Irreversible Damage or the Helen Joyce book. Is Shrier's book more accessible? Perhaps I will splash out and get both.
Huckleberries73 · 21/05/2021 08:49

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Leafstamp · 21/05/2021 08:26

Yesss!!! OP and OP’s DH.

I love these positive stories, I think the tide is turning too.

Umpteenthiteration · 21/05/2021 08:24

@Irishmom7 drip drip indeed. We are many and we will not be silenced.

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Umpteenthiteration · 21/05/2021 08:23

@toffeebutterpopcorn I hear what you're saying, but in this case the documents had been prepared by the female head of HR - and she was just ignorant of the whole gender and sex debate (believe it or believe it not!).

I've also radicalised my MIL as she is a staunch John Lewis and M&S shopper - so that's her local bridge club and the golfing ladies what lunch also radicalised (or at least aware) by Mumsnet by proxy. Mumsnet has a lot to answer for (thankfully!).

Having seen the recent AIBU thread 'message from a trans friend' and the responses being overwhelming for upholding women's sex-based rights I really feel the tide has turned. And we are each playing a part in this.

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toffeebutterpopcorn · 21/05/2021 08:01

Good boy! Sad when it’s the men who have to push this bolder up the hill though.

PennineSpring · 21/05/2021 07:53

Nice one OP

Irishmom7 · 21/05/2021 07:52

Go you and your husband. I turned a mom at the school gates with one brief conversation and a loan of “Irreversible damage”. Her husband lectures at a VERY “woke” university. And now she has turned him. Drip drop.

Sunshinebunshine · 21/05/2021 07:47

Go him indeed... Gives me hope that Me explaining this to my dh will finally bear fruit

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