Saying ‘women have vaginas’ is transphobic?

I've said this before but what is actually going to happen in the sciences? What about every medical and biology textbook EVER written? Are they going to be burned?
Are we going to teach children biology or fantasy? Women have vaginas. Men do not have vaginas. And if that statement is contentious then it just shows how far down the rabbit hole we have come.
It doesn't matter how many times you repeat the nonsense BTW. It still doesn't, and never will, change established science, evolution, biology, genetics, chromosomes, DNA, anatomy, physiology, and COMMON SENSE.

I'm confused.

You can't use just 'female' to replace woman. In science.

You need to be clear and accurate.

You'd need to use adult human female/ juvenile human female etc.

Which is pretty long-winded!

Also the word female is currently up for repurposing. What then?

Exactly!!!!!!

I'm confused.

You can't use just 'female' to replace woman. In science.

You need to be clear and accurate.

You'd need to use adult human female/ juvenile human female etc.

Which is pretty long-winded!

Also the word female is currently up for repurposing. What then?

That is mildly transphobic, as not all women have vaginas and not everyone with vaginas are women

No it really isn't. It's a medical biological fact.

It is however extremely confusing for any child learning English as an additional language, a child with autism or semantic pragmatic difficulties or other language difficulties.

All this inclusion without exception never includes any of these children/ young people does it?

It may be that the science teacher teaches male and female rather than man or woman, because it is not species specific. But I don’t know. I know that we are trying our best to get the kids to use terms like “thermal energy” instead of “heat”. It may be that the science teacher just wants the students to use scientific language in science lessons and has nothing to do with trans issues. Also I would assume if kids are getting confused about people identifying out of their gender it would be safest to refer to sex in lessons. Getting the politics out of science and avoiding a can of worms.

Oh good god I would kick off. Kid wouldn’t be attending this teachers class and I’d demand someone who’s willing to teach biology and not fantasy.

It is astonishing and shocking that individual parents are having to take on individual schools about the whole issue. This is surely where the Dept of education , the EHRC should be intervening and getting general policy established. Not to mention exam boards...how would a marker deal with a child who says that men can give birth for example?

Have you raised it or will you raise it with the school's governing body?

Sorry, posted on the wrong thread. Still a great post though!

A lot has changed since they could give women criminal records for, effectively, nothing without anyone noticing. There was Kate Scottow's successful appeal, there are many wanting to fight against what they see as oppressive use of power, and there's the disproportionate new Hate Speech laws in Scotland.

With the much greater amount of awareness now and many more willing to pitch in, I think this time round the Police will be shocked at the amount of resistance they get in attempting to squash one of the little people (little women).

@hallouminatus I think you've chosen a part of the specification about female reproduction - then mother and woman could well be included in the mark scheme for any question on that topic.

But in other sections that lead to being able to identify the biology as male or female then the marks schemes would probably allocate automatic marks for male and female and queries/lower marks available for women and men, depending on the specific question - again dependent on the mark scheme! There have always been bands of marking allowing for more and less specific/correct terminology.

That and I was referring to about 10+ years ago (at A level to boot). So could well be utterly wrong about GCSEs and whatever is used nowadays!

Obviously my last post wasn't directed at you @Erikrie, I agree with you.

Women have vaginas" is a factual statement. Anybody traumatised by basic biological facts that most pre-schoolers have grasped should seek psychiatric help, not expect others to indulge their delusions en masse

This I like.

I'm sorry that you believe it means people have a phobia. I am not remotely scared of transwomen, so no phobia here. I don't care what anybody wants to call themselves or wear etc. But I will not pretend things I know to be false to be true because then words lose their meaning and we descend into nonsense.

"Women have vaginas" is a factual statement. Anybody traumatised by basic biological facts that most pre-schoolers have grasped should seek psychiatric help, not expect others to indulge their delusions en masse.

Meanwhile in Scotland: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/university-student-faces-disciplinary-action-for-offensive-remarks-g7rk2zppm

I think she is being repped by Joanna Cherry.

CuriousaboutSamphire said:
So in a biology exam no women has no meaning, nor does man! If the mark scheme does not include those terms, and they never used to, they won't get the mark if they use them instead of male and female.

That looked unlikely to me.

So I just had a look at the AQA Biology GCSE specification, and it contains several instances of the word "woman", as well as the words "mother" and "father'.

For example:

"Several hormones are involved in the menstrual cycle of a woman."
and
"• IVF involves giving a mother FSH and LH to stimulate the maturation of several eggs.
• The eggs are collected from the mother and fertilised by sperm from the father in the laboratory.
• The fertilised eggs develop into embryos.
• At the stage when they are tiny balls of cells, one or two embryos are inserted into the mother’s uterus (womb)."

The word "man" doesn't appear in the specification, but I still do not for one moment believe that students would lose marks if they used "man" to refer to an adult human male in a biology exam, even if that word is not used in the mark scheme.

It’s not transphobic to say “women have vaginas”
it’s only transphobic to say “only women have vaginas”.

Only biological women do have vaginas. I'm not interested in mashing up definitions to mean other things. If one thinks the truth is transphobic then so be it. 🤷

It's interesting that they think it's ok because the word female is scientifically untouchable.
As there's been creeping in on that word too...

Was told oh we will say woman in other contexts.

And can they explain what this means in a way that doesn’t rely on sexist stereotypes or remove all meaning from the word ‘woman’?

@MoonCatcher

If the term woman is not defined by reference to biology what is it defined by? Does it even have a meaning?

So in a biology exam no women has no meaning, nor does man! If the mark scheme does not include those terms, and they never used to, they won't get the mark if they use them instead of male and female.